Has Anyone Been to the Lazze Metalworking Class in TRJ #35

I was reading the new issue of TRJ, great read as usual, and I read the article on the Lazze metalworking classes. Anybody on the board attend? I'm contemplating taking my vacation and taking the course.

 

I haven't taken his class, but everyone that I've talked to that has taken it, liked it. I've talked to him on the phone a couple of times and will probably stop by his place next week.

Do you belong to MetalMeet? We have our annual meet about 120 miles from Indy in October. I have been trying to put together a list with all the classes are available in the US and has grown to around the world. I have a rough list now with quite a few.

 

Not yet. But I will be in the next couple of months in order to do a piece for the Gazette.

 

He´s from sweden and had classes over here for years, i´ve never taken one but heard nothing but good things and he´s got a good reputation here.
I have worked with one of his english wheels and they are very well made!

 

No, but I attended a Dutch Comstock classs, well worth the $$$$

 

Hey,

What I've always found interesting is that Lazze doesn't do any
blocking/beating into a shot bag, to shape his panels. All shaping
is done with his wheel and shrinker/stretcher.
He use to have pictures of the aluminum Willys that his students
would build in the Metalshapers archives (metalshapers.org) , but
I don't know if they are still there. Now he has his students building
'32 Fords.

Swankey Devils C.C.

 

hi 40vert
have not gone to lazze class. But we are having a metal shapping weekend at our shop march 30 -april 1 in staunton IL. It's a lot closer and cheaper then lazze.

johnny

 

http://www.metalmeet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6792&highlight=%22april+fools"

 

thanks for the link larry.

it should be a good time again this year 21 days and counting.

johnny

 

Hey Uncle Johnny~ Does the MetalMeet ever do get togethers out near the west coast. I've looked around their site but it seems that everything is mid west or farther. I'm sure going to one of the meets would be worth it but it's hard to justify the trip when I've got soo much work to do. Thanx Jaysin

 

Hey pimpin paint,

There are many different ways that I've seen guys get to the shape they're trying to get. John Glover does the same thing, at least I've never seen him use a bag in any of his video's. Maybe he did, but I might have slept through that part.

 

Do you ever check the MetalMeet events calendar? There is one in about a week and another in Wyoming in June.

 

I heard only good things about Lazee. I too would like to take his classes, but that's expensive, if you add to that the cost of missing work (no paid vacations for me) that's way out of my league.

 

Yeah, perhaps it's a European thing, some of the polish guys I've
talked with don't do much blocking to develop shape.

I've been told that most of the tapes on metal work, available
for sale , are a sure cure for insomnia. Perhaps, if the late Russ
Myers had done videos that wouldn't be an issue.

Swankey Devils C.C.

 

howdy

has anyone taken this class lately?

can you explain what his thoughts and ideas are on metal shaping,
he seems to do it without many tools.....

I have seem him at a few shows showing his bead roller etc and what it can do, but it was mostly making flames etc on flat sheetmetal,,,,,,,

just not sure if its worth spending the $$$$

its $1350 FOR 3 DAYS

 

I am also very interested in hearing feedback on Lazze’s classes. I was just re-reading an old article in Street Rod Builder that showed his class and pictures of his shop, etc. I think I am going to try one of his videos, but I don’t like it that they are only available as a download, not on a disc. I tried to rent one at SmartFlix http://smartflix.com/store/category/115/Metalworking but there weren’t any of his.

Anyone out there have feedback on Lazze’s videos?

How was Lazze in person? Did he seem like someone who would be a good teacher? I’m in the Midwest so I haven’t run across him in person but I’ve seen some of Lazze’s equipment at a shop near here, it looks well made and thought out.

I hope I’m not going off-thread here, but I have found some very good and reasonably priced metalworking workshops in the Midwest at the EAA Fly-In in Oshkosh, Wisconsin over the past several summers.
http://www.airventure.org/forums/interest.asp?EventID=12&InterestID=80

After you pay the rather high daily gate $, all the presentations and workshops are free, you just walk into whatever workshop you want to. I camp out in a nearby farmer’s field for $12 a night with hundreds of other peasants, so the lodging is very do-able. There are multiple presenters on metal forming, shaping, English wheel, welding aluminum-gas and TIG, riveting, choosing alloys, etc. Some presentations invite your hands-on participation afterwards, some don’t. There’s a huge trade show, and lots of vendors for metalworking tools, Miller and Lincoln are there with classes and machines to test-drive, and great trade show prices. The presenters all know their stuff, they weld and fabricate like their lives depend on it because they do. Kent White is often among the regular presenters. The craftsmanship on the restored vintage and homebuilt planes is absolutely incredible.

 

I still have not taken it, but he actually just moved his shop like 100 yards from our office. I plan on taking it this winter.

I have heard nothing but positive feedback about the course.

 

Earlier in this thread someone mentioned the aluminum '41 Willys coupe his class builds from sheet aluminum.

He also made a steel, full-fendered chopped '34 three-window for himself, which is shown on his site. Before that, he and his students built aluminum Cobras.

I haven't taken his class, but he's a nice guy with a very good reputation.

Lazze Jansson
1051 Serpentine Lane, Suite 500
Pleasanton, CA 94566
(925) 461-2961

Here's his site:
http://www.lazze.us/

Dave
http://www.roadsters.com/

 

Haven't taken his class, but he is doing some work for me right now on a hood and rear pan and it Freaking Gorgeous!

 

how many groups of students does it take to build the Willys or a Cobra ?

He seems to have an interesting idea of not using any power panners etc ,

I like that idea because you can do it at home and not piss off the neighbors with noise so they call the cops....

Is there anyone else doing it this way ?

Beaulieu

 

I took Lazze's Step 1 class last summer and his Step 2 class about three months ago. It took him a while to understand my sense of humor, so now we get along great; probably a language thing.

In the Step 2 class, there were three of us that built a 33 Ford Coupe body in five days. Actually, the way Lazze shapes metal is more along the way that I was taught using a hammer; where you shrink the edges and planish or raise the center. Most of the guys in this country, use a bag to make their shape and planish with the wheel.

 

That is if you live through the experience. As we get older, those power tools make life so much easier.

 

I have not attended his class, but i spoke with him a long time ago when he lived in Sweden, and just had made his first 34 roadster, he is a good guy.

My personal metal master say his way of shaping the metal is a slow way. Since he dont use any hammerwork. and that could be a problem if you try to make a living of it.

 

John Glover doesn't seem to hammer out his metal and then planish it. Most of the guys that I've seen that hammer (by hand) their metal out, seem to have shoulder problems when they get older.

I've never really embraced the concept of beating the hell out of a piece of metal and then smoothing it out with a wheel. I've often wondered if you are fracturing the metal or what.

Now hammering it out with a power hammer and getting the metal hot, that's shaping within the elastic limits of the metal.

YMMV

 

I took the class and was dissapointed, he's definetely telented but I felt like I learned the idea in the first two days and the third day was unorganized, excellent techniques, but man the cost. Most of the time he was promoting his tools that are way out of my price range. If you're new to metalworking, like I was at the time, it won't seem worth the cost especially if you don't have any basic tools to come home and practice with, like an english wheel and shrinker/stretcher. I see it more as a benefit to an established shop or group of friends to go to and learn some new skills and different way of doing things. Just don't pick up a piece of metal and start banging on it - he'll cringe.

 

Joe;
Go over and see Jerry Weeks in Indy. He is a very talented metalshaper and has a power hammer among other tools. Maybe he can give you an idea what you are getting into. He is a very friendly guy and has a natural talent for teaching. I have learned as much in one afternoon with him as I have in a whole weekend with Ron Fornier or Fay Butler. He doesn't put on any classes but he needs to. Just my opinion. You can come over and bang around on my stuff if you want.
Steve

 

well i've met lazze ,actually bought the 41 willy's coupe from him and it is a work of art .i spent a couple hrs with him when i picked the car up and i learned more in that short time about working with metal.i will be taking his course in the near future as for the cost its not much when you can build a panel or fender that cant be obtained . i built a trunk lid for a 41 willys it took me twice as long as it took them to build the whole damn 41 cpe. time is $$$. i highly recomend lazze
wayne

 

One of the problems with any panel fabrication is making it fit to you original body,
you can make a 100% perfect looking fender , but if it does not fit the body contour and bolt up , then all you have is a piece of wall art

To me thats where much of the talent is , making parts that fit into the hole they were designed for ,
You will notice on all the DVDs that parts are made (never say how many are started and scrapped) but they are not often shown mounted to the body to see if all the edges fit,

I hope someday to be good enough to make parts that fit ! and the first time !

Beaulieu

 

Me and my friend took the class this week in sweden.
the teacher in sweden Oskar is a great guy, i learned alot i can recommend the class!