Hydralic Throwout bearing issues

Has anyone ever used a Howe stock style hydralic throw out bearing/master cylinder set up with a Borg & Beck style clutch. I bought a new Hays Borg & Beck style and cannot seem to get the clutch to disengage when the pedal is pushed. The lines have been bled for air and we see the throw out bearing moving about a 1/4". I am at a total loss...

Any help or suggesting would be appreciated.

 

Did you shim the bearing at all? Those throwout bearings have shim kits with them. Take a measurement from the fingers on the pressure plate to the mating surface of the bell housing. Install the bearing and measure from the face of the trans (front mounting surface to the face of the bearing. Howe says you should have if I remeber coreectly 3/16 preload on the pressure plate.

 

I just installed one last week. My car's not running yet so I can't tell you how well it works. What I can tell you is that you want to shim the TO bearing until the distance between the clutch fingers to the bellhousing face are equal to the distance of the transmission face to the bearing face (retracted). The instructions say that there can be a slight preload. I hope that made sense. Also, I wound up switching to a 3/4" master cylinder even though the instructions say use a 1". Much better modulation that way. Perhaps you're using too small of a master cylinder?
The only problem I'm having now is that the stainless steel remote bleeder hose rubs slightly against the bellhousing. I'm wondering if this will be a problem later on down the road or if it's something one can live with. Hope this helps.

 

I have installed dozens of them, but I believe that they only work on diaphragm style clutches. The instruction say 3/4" M/C's only on the one's I have used.

 

i am having problems too, i ahve a saginaw 4- speed with a howe throw out and there is not enough room for the bearing between the pressure plate and the ******. any ideas?

 

What type of pressure plate are you using? There are 2 styles of these T/O bearings from Howe. Diaphram and long style.

 

After taking all the measurements it did not require any shims. I am also using the 3/4 master cylinder as required. At this point I am taking out the Borg & Beck style and ordered a diaphragm style clutch setup. The Howe tech said their hydralic bearings should work for both styles but I really question if it has enough travel for the Borg & Beck style clutch.
Hays Tech told me that it should work with a Hydralic bearing but the Ram Clutch Tech said they do not recommend a Borg & Beck style with a hydralic bearing setup due to the higher spring force.

At this point I am tearing my motor out of my car and replacing the Borg & Beck style clutch with a Diaphragm style...I hope all this ******* arond is worth it in the end.

 

Devin . I use a peice of fuel line hose wrapped around the line to keep it from rubbing on my 64 Comet and also I would suggest using some hose or line straps to tie the hoses to the bell housing. I had a hose rub on my clutch the first time around and blow out the line.