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Repainting a Fiberglass body

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by The37Kid, Aug 11, 2008.

  1. The37Kid
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    Ok, may not be tradiitional, but the money I'll make goes into my project. Got a chance to repaint a 1973 LOLA Formula 5000 with a fibergl*** body. It is off to the spripper tomorrow to be walnut shell or media blasted, then a boat guy will repair any cracked or damaged areas. My question is what is the best primer to use on fibergl***? Final color will match the yellow on the Johnny Rutherford Indy 500 winner. Thanks for the advice and help.
     
  2. Clark
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    PPG K36 is what I like to use. Doesn't matter if it's steel or gl***.

    You will probably end up with a lot of pinholes after the blasting. I had a set of fenders done and the looked like they were attacked by polyestermites.

    I put a couple of heavy caots of K36 on sanded with 80 grit then had to do a skim coat of "Icing". It's a lightwieght filler by evercoat.

    Fenders are about 10 years old now and look as good as the day they were painted.
    Clark
     
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  4. 32SEDAN
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    Gel-coat is extremely brittle and shows imperfections after primer/paint shrinks. Go for the high-build primer as Mr. Clark suggested.
     
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  6. 32SEDAN
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    the epoxy primer may not shrink (once cured) but the paint WILL
     
  7. Skrayp
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    Anything short of the fibergl*** and gelcoat is gonna shrink,no matter what you put on top of it. Gel coat will encapsulate the repairs. If a boat guy is gonna fix the cracks, he will surely make the repairs with nothing but fibergl*** and resin. The only thing on a fibergl*** body that is cosmetic, will be the pinholes that need filled. leave the surface sanded to an 80-100 grit texture, so the gelcoat will bite in.Block the gelcoat down with 120, and apply a 2k surfacer for a finish coat that you can prep sand with 400-600 wet, seal it, and paint it. Look at it like this...fibergl*** is almost like a living organism. It only takes about 120 degrees Fahrenheit for fibergl*** to change. You need to separate the host surface from the substrate (primer). That's what gel coat is for. It's what they spray in the mold first, before the fibergl*** is laid in. Cracks in the fibergl*** is a structural problem, so build it up stronger than it was before. Shape low spots back up with more fibergl***, not filler. And as far as chipping, if it happens its gonna chip straight down to the fibergl***, no matter what you put on top of it, unless you paint it with truck bed liner. Then, it will bounce right off lol.
     
  8. adamabomb76
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    I've seen Clarks work. I'd follow him. He messes w/alot of ****, and has most of his methods dialed in. Don't know him personally, but have been lookin at his stuff for a few years.
     
  9. Karpo
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    Gel Coat is the only way to go,period. I have had 2 fibergl*** bodies painted in the last couple of years, gel coated both of them and nothing has shown through. Make sure you give it some cure time. And by the way , it's some nasty stuff to work with, but well worth it.
     
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  11. racer32
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    I used to repair/paint fiberglas boats. All repairs were done with epoxy resin and gl*** cloth. VERY few of our repairs were coated with gel-coat unless the original finish was being matched and the entire boat wasn't there for repaint. All our repaints were primed with a high build expoxy primer straight over the roughed-up factory gel-coat and/or any repairs. Marine epoxy primer will stick to almost any surface that has some tooth.
     
  12. J'st Wandering
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    What is gel coat like? I am guessing that it gets sprayed on like paint. Did I guess right? Why is it better than an epoxy primer/sealer?

    Neal
     
  13. The37Kid
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    That was a guess on my part I'm sure he'll use the proper media, BEST car body stripper on the east coast with a lot of Corvette work in the past. Thanks for all the info sofar!:)
     

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