Hot Rods where do you draw the line on faux gassers?

yay! that was great!

 

This **** is just wrong on so many levels!!!![


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Now that we have a second to the motion, I guess we should vote. I have to agree with you guys.

 

awesome.. looks like fun

 

Here are the pix of the Daimler hemi powered 1946 Morris Z van.

 

?? and is the 60's now to late for a g***er? that is when i remember them , dont recall seeing stone woods n cook at the local drive in crusin chicks.. you must be an old dude...

 

Thats a good way to look at it, I still don't like this car but here are a couple of race cars that had the "dumptruck look". These are not Gas cars but its more proof that its all been done.

 

As I have said in previous posts, I am g***ifying my '53 Pontiac with an eye towards an H/Gas car with a straight eight. It may not be right but it's what I want to do with it.

As for scale g***ers, I had a lot of fun building this one:

 

I think the whole idea is like about anything else that is done in the name of period correct. Its done because we can.

I wasn't very old but I still vaguely recall the transition from when G***ers were basically street legal to when there was no way in the world you could drive one on the street. It was a damned good time to be alive.

I personally lean toward the transitional period. I'm afraid that a lot of the mud bogger lookin' cars reminds me too much of the '70s, when I was young involved and didn't fit in, much like today except for the young part.

We build a lot of cars that certainly be a lot more practicle for driveing but what would be the point. If practicle is what we were after we'd be buying and driveing late model, right?

 

My humble opinion is generally known around here, G***ers are bad*** cars. The era of the Willys coupes and Super Stock cars was a magic time. The AA/FDs were the Kings of the Sport, but the G***ers were the big stars. Who didn't know who Stone Woods & Cook was, in 1962? That was a very pure time. Racers and fans knew what they were doing and watching. In highschool, we really did talk about ETs when the magazines came out each month. It was a very special, fast paced time to be here.

Anyway,
G***ers are suposed to be rowdy, scary race cars. There are modifications that will define the time frame the car should fit. There is a '52 Chevy short top coupe around So Cal that is built to conform to the '61 or '62 NHRA rule book. That car is a G***er. Putting a beam axle under something other than the lightest car and calling it a G***er smacks of Rosie O'Donnell cutting her bangs straight and saying that she looks like Betty Page. At least it doesn't fool ME.

But I digress, what I started say was, I don't care what you guys build. The Donk guys came up with a cool name on their own. Create a name to go along with the new style you're on the cutting edge of. I wouldn't presume to suggest any, but, really guys, the name G***er is taken.
Thanks.

 

Here ya go Phil....
Bette O' Donnell

 

Now that's scary!

 

EeEeEeeEeeeK!

 

...Phil
I think most of the time you an I agree. Well I probably agree with you more than you agree with me.

But why name anything at all? For a long time my whole phylosophy has been build it and throw it out there, if someone likes it that's cool and if they don't there's a thousand other cars for 'em to look at.

Funny thing, I have a friend that's a few years older than me, he raced top fuel up into the '80s. He always called his top fuel cars a "hot rod".

 

Revhead I also have to say build what you want and if what you want is a g***er then build a g***er don't worry about what everyone else thinks is just a fad or not. You can build it with 4 wheel drums or discs or what ever you want but just remember while you are building it to think of yours and everyone elses safety. You will have alot more fun if you are not worrying everytime you are behind the wheel. I built my g***er just over 2 years ago and driven it over 7000 miles so far. To top it all off I had to do just a few safety things such as add a battery cut off switch and switch from rubber to push lock fuel lines and I ran my car at the Hot Rod Reunion last month in Bowling Green in the nostalgia gas cl***. So you can have a very streetable and period correct looking car and still have some fun with it on the track when you want to. So keep us posted on the build and have some fun.

 

theres some cool looking stuff in this thread.

 

I knew that photo of Rosie O' Donnell would be a hit!

 

Hey! Where'd ya'all get a fota of my Moma? Aint shee the sweetest.

 

Here is a photo my good friend Dave Ehrman's old "minor" cl*** g***er from Ohio (Medina / Hinckley area). It had a straight 6 with a home-brewed Hilborn manifold. Sorry, don't have any more photos right now. I think it would be a good example of a car you could drive daily (although this one wasn't). In it's day, this coupe was pretty peppy, and they won their cl*** at the Nats in Indy two consecutive years in the 60's. There is a tiny bit on it in the "G***er Wars" book. Later, Gary

 

My first car was a 41 Willy G***er with an injected 392 Hemi. My and my best friend got the bright idea to make this a street car. So we went about installing everything needed lights horn turn signals etc. not too shabby for a couple of kids, well needless to say it never p***ed NJ inspection and to say it was a bear to drive on the street was an understatement. It was cool as hell when you pulled up at a traffic light next to some geek in a Trans Am that Daddy & Mommy bought him with the collector dump practically starring him in the face but like I said not very good in the turns. A kid on a motor scooter could navigate turns better then I could with that monster. The name on the car when I bought it was "Hell on Wheels II" version I got wrecked and now I know why. I was at a local cruise nite this past week and there were tow 55 Chevy G***er's there one with a beam axle and the other with the spindles flipped and swapped side to side. A thing guys used to do back in the day to get the front end way up in the air. I strongly recommend NOT doing this. As soon as I saw that 55 with the spindles flipped and swapped it brought back a very scary memory. I was drag racing a guy from out of town with a 55 lifted in the exact same way and about 3/4 the way down the road we used to street race on one of his lower control arms tore out of the frame and he flipped that thing about 4 or 5 times and he got screwed up pretty bad. From what I understand is you put way too much stress on the lower control arms when you do this.

So if I were you maybe a torsion bar front end out of a Mopar to raise it up or an old trick was to run big block springs with a small block that gave the front end some what of a lifted look, actually raised the front end and by running a single leaf rear spring you actually lowered the back so it gave the impression of lifting the front end more then you did. You have the look and still have the handling some what, and good braking as well.

As one guy mentioned earlier form follows function, you first have to make the car work and work safely and then be concerned with the styling. No sense pouring a lot of time and money into a car you can't enjoy driving.

 

I just threw up a little in my mouth

 

I draw the line at people who call them "G***ers".
They RARELY have the faintest idea of the concept. Ask any "Garage" magazine reading idiot what car he's building, and while fixing his cuffs and/or his hair he inevitably will be building a "g***er" out of a 61 or 63 Chevy Truck or some other abortion of a car (66 Ford truck, Ford Falcon, any car he can find for cheap) that never sees the light of day. You build a 64 Comet Cyclone with a 427 cammer and I will kiss your ***.
Build your car, move on.

 

Cool Morris Van!!! Thanks for posting the pics.

 

I agree that the term "G***er" is over used. What I don't agree on is that a Falcon is considered an abortion for a project. Tell Hubert Platt that he had 3 of them. Or Phil Bonner of "Daddy Warbucks" fame. As for a Comet Cyclone, that would be awesome but I consider them A/FX cars not g***ers.

 

I only draw a line when these people over restore these things until they can't p*** tech anymore. That just seems stupid.

If you are gonna build a g***er, make sure it's runnable. It's kind of stupid to build a car that looks like a drag car, but runs like a Dodge Neon.

 

Sorry for seeming harsh, I should have said "a four door Falcon" or a 53 four door something. Buy a cool car to start with and go for it.
Trust me I am VERY familiar with 60's Fords.
To reply to the original post,
Go for it man, it may ride rough, and not drive well, but it may be cool, if you are happy with it, do it.
Sorry I got so fired up, but there are 2 people I know building "G***ers" out of stupid cars/trucks. One is a 65 Ford Truck, with a perfectly fine split I beam axle that would be cool as hell on it's own, not 3 feet in the air in front, with a spray bomb suede paint job and A/G painted on the door, and another is a 65 Falcon 4 door, same paint job, 4 (!!!) lug 6 cylinder piece of ****, the guy can't even fix a 4 wheel drum brake system. So, that's where I draw the line.
Most of the people in this town, who are building "G***ers" are really "scenesters" who want to go to Roundup and fit in. A few really have legit g***er bad***ed cars. Most in the know with a "Skill Set" that few others possess have wicked bad***ed cars and repair other cars daily.
No malice, just have self awareness, original poster has a good idea, I just can't stand every scenester building a "g***er" because anyone can put a straight axle under the front end of almost anything.

 

I am actually building a '38 Pontiac Tudor "G***er", It's going to have a 303 Olds with a custom built crossram intake, with 2 650 Holleys, fenderwell headers, nice and lumpy cam ground by Schneider (some guys here convinced me to do that), Possibly some minor head work, and that's about it engine wise until I get some more money...Then there is the Econoline Straight Axle, disc brakes in front,drums in rear,Hurst Pie Crusts in back (the new red&white striped ones)
Ladder bars, stripped down interior, (dad convinced me to do window "regulators" like his old altered nova, using seat belts to raise and lower them) And then for wheels I was thinking Halibrands...but I know most didn't run them, I really want to run a set of Radirs...I just like how they look...And then coat the whole thing in black with red and white lettering, and red tinted plexi...Should be cool...I do have future plans of slapping a blower on it though!

Oh and I forgot about the future swap to a B&M Hydrostick when the blower goes on too...My uncles got one in his garage I'm trying to talk him out of! For now it's either the stock hydro with some tricks thrown at it or a LaSalle manuel, not really sure as of yet...still need to get the car home

 

Faux g***er???

would buying a stock model A or 5 window coupe or anycar for that matter and then fixing it up to look like a hot rod done in the 50's or 60's be considered a faux traditional???

If thats the case then 80% of the cars on this site are Faux and where do we draw the line.

Holy Sh+t the revelation!!!

Just keeping things real.....or faux..whatever

 

Here and here, would be a good place that the line should have been drawn. Now I can't say that these owners claimed these to be "G***ers" but many ****s were calling them that. 4 Doors? Flaked roof and scallops? Horrible stance, front end too high - NOT G***er! I'll give them credit for driving them and having fun, just don't call em G***ers.