so im trying to build a 317 lincoln y block and i would really like to have either a 3x2 or a 2x4 ive seen the 2x4s out there but only once for sale and would much rather have a 3x2 problem is i cant find it anywhere so i thought i would ask anyway to make em or have them made and i mean a nice one not a ghetto piece of junk a nice one almost like it came stock any ideas guys im at the end of my rope
Red's used to have a lot of Y-block parts. If you give them a call, they might be able to help ya out 707-964-7733.
If one does come up, your going to be fighting me for it I was just going to make one if nothing surfaces by the time I really need it. There is a post on here about adapting an early olds mani to the Linc Y, I have put an olds mani upto my Linc, its close, but it would take some working out. Good luck.
I am working on a intake.I had the intake flange made at a local shop if any one needs one just let me know.I think they were $45.00...real nice!
The Rocket and Lincoln have almost the same bore pitch (4.625" vs. 4.63"), so the port pairs should be pretty good. For best effect, the Olds should be narrower across the flanges than the Lincoln (use a 303 or 324 low deck manifold rather than a 371 or 394) to allow as much thickness as possible for bolt pattern, port shape etc. Here's the Edelbrock 324 tri-power OL-396. As seen, the water stuff will take some work.
The Lincoln engines had conventional side by side intake ports; the Ford/Mercury engines are the only ones with stacked ports.
ive read a little on converting a olds intake for lincoln y but now i cant find any threads or posts and a flange might work? is it possible to have a machine shop make one or cast something
The $$$ involved in casting an intake manifold will make the price on an existing Lincoln intake look cheap.
thats what i kinda figured but i dont even know if 3x2 are out there i heard they are but there so rare that i probly will never ever find one only once have a seen a 2x4 on sale it was on ebay i think it went for damn near 2 grand how would i go about getting on cast
Guy's, if you look in the for sale section you will see an ad ***led "attention Rocketteers" or some thing close. The man has taken an olds log manifold and made wedge plates to run it on his 317. There are even pictures of it sitting on the 317 with the plates. I didn't want to run a log manifold, but i was intrigued with the idea of reworking the olds manifold. I purchased an Offenhauser 2x4 manifold for an early olds and was amazed how close they were when I layed the Lincoln intake gasket on it, even the manifold width is extremely close, the major difference being the angle of the gasket surface. I took my Olds manifold to a friend who does alot of welding for Arias, Fontana, Edelbrock, etc. and he built up both sides of the gasket area to make up the differance. I then took the Offy manifold along with a stock 368 manifold to a machine shop. He pulled the dimensions off the stock manifold and is currently machining the Offy manifold. Once its done I will post pictures. It's alot of work, and I burn't up some favors, but these manifolds are tough to come by. I think the next time I would just machine some wedge plates. On a side note, while this was all in the works I stumbled onto a Edmunds 2x4 for a Lincoln with the Continental aluminum valve covers. You just never know. Good luck Bernard.
Have you examined Pontiac as a donor? Again bore pitch is very close at 4.62", ports are in pairs, many manifolds on the market, deck height is shorter than the Lincoln (10.25" vs. 10.94") for some room to modify the flange or add a flange spacer. Here's an Edelbrock P303:
When I was looking for Lincoln stuff I did see one Lincoln after market 3 deuce intake. I don't remember the maker. I was ready to pay more than I was comfortable with but it mysteriously was removed before the auction ended. I'm sure some daddywarbucks made him an offer he couldn't refuse. It's the only one I've ever seen. I sold my Edmund's dual quad.
On fabrication: the flange angle will vary between brands and even between engines in the same brand. This affects gasket seal if the difference is more than a few degrees (which can generally be made up in gasket crush). Generally preferable to do the manifold. Making the angle on the head different may be easier to do (especially if the head is being machined for another purpose like compression - saves set-up time), but this means it can't take the stock manifold any more. Making the flange angle more vertical (taking material from the outer edge of the flange) makes the manifold narrower, making the flange more horizontal (taking material from the inner edge of the flange) does not - remember to include this in your width calculations. Important: the height of the intake port in the flange will vary somewhat between engines, so besides deck height this also changes placement. Bolt pattern will vary quite a bit between engines. If the original holes aren't useful but are too close to ignore, it's easier to thread the hole and insert a piece of threaded aluminum bar stock, then tig only the top and bottom (instead of welding the hole completely) - less distortion. When in doubt, spot-face the upper flange surface parallel to the correct flange angle so you can add a thick washer to spread the load over the flange (especially if the bolt is large vs. the flange width, or near the flange edge). If not practical, use spherical washers to align the underside of the bolt to the (incorrect of unfinished) flange angle. In many cases, the make or break decision is based on whether the donor engine matches the project as to a separate valley cover (Chrysler hemi, Olds, Chrysler B/RB etc.) or not (SBC, BBC, Chrysler LA, etc.). This adds a huge amount of work. The water (if any) can generally be plumbed separately with external lines. They can even be made attractive if you use chrome or br*** tubing. If some clever person scienced out a good conversion (i.e., Lincoln : Olds) that didn't require manifold welding they might make angled flange plates as a product with a template and instructions - allowing Lincoln owners to use any Olds manifold they can find (iron or aluminum).
man what a pain i almost bought a olds 3x2 the other day just to see how much it might need to work my buddies a machinist but i just didnt want to dromp money i didnt have
I would like to build a lincoln Y block intake..I guess it will fit all the blocks up to the 368..If anyone is near Sacramento and has a block and heads, let me know.. Duane.
Stromberg, I got block and heads. I'm in L.A., we could meet in the middle. PM me, we can work something out. Thanks, Mike.
I have a 368 in a 61 galaxie,had to make my own headers.Used the 332 truck bell housing,my own adaptor for a t5 5 speed and redrilled the flywheel for a 11 inch pressure plate.I am also looking for ant performance parts for this engine,intakes,magneto etc... thanks,Cliff
I'm in San Mateo and have a 368 on the stand next to my mill if you want to come by and fool around with it.
Can you still get those wedge plates made??? I just bought an early olds Edmunds 2x4 manifold to put on my 368 Lincoln and would need such plates.How would I arrange shipping to Oroville ,Wa 98844????Total costs?? Will take a set for sure if it is not too much bother,thanks,desperate to have a 2x4 set up on my engine,thanks,Cliff
might try lake headers - they build log-type manifolds for all kindsa applications http://www.lakeheaders.com/Home.html if not sumthin off the shelf, they do custom stuff too, least they did
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