Don't really know what you are talking about but if you mean a 'Y' adapter to fit 2 carbs to a 2 barrel manifold. In my opinion it's a waste of time.
Whats wrong with a Y adapter or a front to rear adapter? Ansen, Eelco, Speed Gems, Almquist & Fenton are a few who use to make them... If ya ask me that are great for a traditional hot rod...
Look at the names of those manufacturers. Some of them were selling to the lowest common denominator. The kid who could afford one gew-gaw from the ad in the back of the magazine, whether it actually made the car better or not. But it sure "looked" cool to all the other local-yokels at the hangout. Check the race coverage in the period magazines, and show us ONE picture of a Y adapter in use.
I made myself a Y-intake yesterday.Seeing that my pick-up will be 100% traditional,& a twin-2barrel intake costs a fortune to import to South Africa,so,I made my own.
alchemy, all I'm saying is that there is nothing wrong with them.. If a guy is on a budget and can't afford a 2 deuce intake he can score a adapter for $50 and buy another 94 for another $50 rebuild it and have a 2 carb intake fer cheep... If that ain't Hot Rod then what is..??
When gas prices shot up I moved to a Vintage Speed Y adaptor. Allows me to run progressive linkage with two carbs. Kind of like a 4 barrel. The vintage speed adaptor looks nice, but the passage ways are a little too small. I also have a Vern Tardel adaptor for a future project. Y adaptors tend to raise your carbs pretty high from the block, requiring you to get fancy with your throttle and choke linkage. Mike
get some tubing, get a welder, get a sawzall , then get a sander... MAKE A DUAL INTAKE. JESUS!! whats wrong with people today?? afraid to make something? does sweating hurt you? friggin crap! rivet it for all i care just dont cop out man! make us proud.
Yeah, I wouldn't call that a two into one. More like a two into... the manifold. You can't mount a carburetor straight to the opening when you take the top of the manifold off.
An Edelbrock Slingshot is NOT a Y adaptor. It is a two-piece dual carb intake, designed for the two carbs and made to flow properly.
This topic is entertaining to me, so I'll help keep it at the top. Decades ago I bought a Speed Gems Y adapter at a swap meet for $3. It was goofy looking, but had fins and I thought it would be cool on the wall. Never intended on using it. Probably about at smooth flowing as a flight of stairs. Two years ago I was cleaning clutter and looking for stuff to Ebay for some car-building cash. Put the Y adapter on, and I'll be darned if the dumb thing didn't make over $300. Bought by Charlie Price of Vintage Speed in Florida. Classic. A little while later I see his "new" Y adapters come out. Look exactly like the Speed Gems except for they now have his name on the side.
I use to make them from U bends and laser cut plates.. Customers were asking me if they knew of anyone who cast a side by side adapter like the ansen.. I had a friend draw it up in solidworks and sent it to the pattern shop... 6 months and 5 prototypes later I cast my first run of 250pcs... That was 3 years ago.. Guys like them... Here is one Dickster27 did..
Here are a few..One Gear Drive and one by Lakeheaders.. I would like to know why you think these are kids toys..You need to stand up to the plate and explain why..FACTS.. These intakes perform and perform very well..I did find that progressive linkage is better then straight on a mild built Flathead..If the Flathead is a high perfromance built engine it will handle the straight 2x2 with no problems.. Get your DUCKS in line.. Duane.
OOPS..The 2x2 to 4x2 conversion is on a strong running Flathead in Texas..The progressive linkage is the answer to setup.. The 3x2 is very modern.. Duane.
If you dump a bucket of water through a funnel, does it travel just as fast through that small hole? Constriction is not your friend on the intake side of an engine. All that wonderful mixture of fuel and air is squeezed together at the base of the Y, and when it enters the stock plenum and has more room to move the fuel particles will be larger droplets. Not as conducive to a cleaner, powerfull burn. Tons of ink have been used writing about keeping the fuel in suspension all the way to the cylinder. I'm no Barney Navarro, but I believe what those guys say. Again, if they are so great and a cheap answer to the purpose-built multi-carb intake, why don't we ("didn't we" in that old Hot Rod magazine) see winning race cars using them? If you are a pro, Mr. Stromberg, have you dynoed any of your concoctions to show us FACTS? >>>>>>> I think I'm not so entertained by this any more. If any of you want to use these things, go right ahead, because I doubt you care what I think.
Thanks for the shot Matt, I have this adapter on a 265 Chevy and I gotta tell you it performs much better than the WCFB it replaced. These adapters never where about serious performance but more about the "bling" factor.
I think the hot setup would be a stock manifold with that side-by-side adapter bolted on and then a couple of the two-into-one adapters bolted to the top of that... and carb risers at each junction. Sort of a 4 into 2 into 1. Linkage would look something like this, but you could hang all of your friends jackets on it at car shows.
For GOD sakes Duane.. Gear drive is the shop name and www.lakeheaders.com is the web address.. YOU should know this... I have been to your house!!!!!!!
I have not benched flowed these but know several Flathead owners that run these setup and really like the performance.. Now..Have you actually run one of these setups.. To get best performance out of these is to index all the flange openings, intake to adaptor, adaptor to carb to be equal size, no restrictions.... This is what so great about the HAMB, discussing topics..The other is, there are different theories, ideas, conclusions.. When we stop thinking and sharing, what is left.. Duane.
Actually the best thing to come out of this thread are the pictures of the linkage on that Ansen style adapter. Taking mental notes for when I have to build the linkage on my blower top.
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