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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by cabanadan, Aug 25, 2008.

  1. cabanadan
    Joined: Dec 15, 2007
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    from wisconsin

    Have four old calipers from an old fuel altered that was scrapped out years ago and was wondering who made them and if they still make pads/rebuild kits for them? They say H-H and the letters are inside a diamond. There is a 500 cast into the calipers also. These are single piston ones... Are the pre Hurst Airheart stuff?//
     
  2. cabanadan
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    from wisconsin

    We have a lot of talent out there, can anybody help? Might be willing to sell a pair of them? Dan
     
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  3. Roadsters.com
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  4. I have the same ones on the Fiat. Go to Hayesbrakes.com. The H&H company was bought in the 60's by Kelsey-Hayes and soon started marketing a seried of disc brakes for aircraft and race cars. The whole story is on their site.
    Don't think they have any service parts...they don't. You will have to source O-rings by dimension to rebuild the calipers.
    PM me of you have any other questions.
     
  5. hlfuzzball
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    from Michigan

    Try contacting Strange Performance(The rear end guys).

    They used some H&H/Kelsey brakes on their stuff back in the day.
     
  6. Algon
    Joined: Mar 12, 2007
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    Algon
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    I have quite a few pairs of those that are NOS with pucks in them if you might have any use...
     
  7. Algon
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    Algon
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    Looks like this?
     

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  8. cabanadan
    Joined: Dec 15, 2007
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    cabanadan
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    from wisconsin

    Identical to the one on the left... Thanks for all of everybody's hel!
     
  9. http://www.hayesbrake.com/history.html



    <table width="550" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="3"><tbody><tr><td valign="top">[FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-2] Dependability, safety and performance have always been the dominant factors in the design and manufacture of Hayes Caliper Disc Brakes. Since 1946, first as H&H Products Company Inc., then as H&H Products Division of Kelsey-Hayes Company and beginning June of 1984 as Hayes Brake. Our disc brakes and brake systems have earned Hayes an enviable reputation as the "disc brake specialists". Many years of experience and development in this exclusive field have led to the comprehensive range of models and accessories that we offer today for recreational, construction, agricultural and military vehicles, motorcycles, bicycles, as well as other types of mobile and stationary equipment.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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    [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-2]The first cars equipped with disc brakes came off the assembly lines in 1964 with Kelsey-Hayes designed four-piston brakes. In 1968, Kelsey-Hayes acquired H&H Products, which operated as a division with an emphasis on racing. Specially developed disc brakes went onto dragsters, Indianapolis-style cars and TransAm racers. The pinnacle of their involvement in racing came on October 23, 1970 when the Blue Flame, equipped with H&H disc brakes, set a new land speed record of 630.388 MPH (Kilometer Speed Record). In an earlier test run the drag chutes had failed and the brakes were able to bring the car to a safe stop from 550 MPH.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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    [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-2]In June of 1971, the first disc brake was shipped to Harley-Davidson for the 1972 FLH model. The other large growth area was the snowmobile market. Hayes Brakes currently supplies the hub/disc, brake calipers and master cylinders for Polaris.[/SIZE][/FONT]
    [FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-2]
    [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-2]To support manufacturing of the new products, in 1972 an addition was put on the original building, which doubled the size of the plant to approximately 50,000 square feet of manufacturing space.[/SIZE][/FONT]
    [FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-2]
    [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-2]In 1992 Hayes began work to enter the mountain bike brake business, releasing its' first product in 1993. In 1998, Hayes Brake formed Hayes Disc Brake, resulting from the design, manufacture and supply of both mechanical and hydraulic disc brakes to the worlds leading manufacturers of mountain bikes. Through the 80's and 90's Hayes Brake has expanded its customer base to well over 300 strong. In addition to the aforementioned companies of Harley-Davidson and Polaris, Hayes Brake is proud to provide braking systems for John Deere, JCB, Caterpillar, Textron, Ariens, E-Z Go, Tennant, Volvo, Trek, Schwinn and Giant to mention a few.[/SIZE][/FONT]
    [FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-2]
    <table><tbody><tr><td valign="top">[FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-2]In 1999 Hayes Brake obtained ISO 9001 certification further demonstrating its
    commitment to quality and continuous improvement. 2001 marked another plant expansion bringing the total manufacturing
    space to 150,000 square feet.
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    [FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif][SIZE=-2]By incorporating leading edge technologies and partnering relationships with customers and suppliers, Hayes Brake is well positioned to continue its steady growth.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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    This is a set that I have on a 57 olds rearend.

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  10. hh caliper.JPG the car that ran the first sub 6 second et in drag racing, 5.41 seconds in 1967, is being restored to its 1966 configuration! H-H calipers are needed to help with the restoration. Here is a picture of the hydraulic H-H calipers required. Any help in locating the calipers will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance for any and all HAMB help.
    Curt R
     
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  11. still looking for an H-H caliper. Some where in HAMBdom there has to be a H-H caliper like the one in the picture that, I posted on September 5, 2015. Not looking for a free part, willing to pay reasonable money.
    Curt R
     
  12. still looking
     
  13. treb11
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    TRY READING POST #6
     
  14. POST #6 IS FROM 2008. PER MY SUBTRACTION EFFORTS THAT IS SEVEN YEARS AGO.
    POST #6 OP's LAST POST ON THE HAMB WAS IN AUGUST 2014, A YEAR AGO.
    MY PM's TO THE OP HAVE N'T BEEN ANSWERED.
    SO, I'M STILL LOOKING.
    MORE SUGGESTIONS FROM YOU ARE WELCOME but try this voice, I hear and read good, oh I did read post #6 before I posted, CAN YOU TELL?
     
  15. Budget36
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    WHAT?...Seriously, you might have better luck in the classifieds?
     
  16. still looking for H-H calipers to help in the restoration of the X1 rocket drag car.
    Curt R
     
  17. A Boner
    Joined: Dec 25, 2004
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    I have a warehouse full of G-H and H-I calipers, but no H-H ones. Sorry buddy!
     
  18. Is this the Sonic Challenger car too ? The land speed racer on ski form ? I know it was X-1 in its wheeled existence. Just wondering. Pictures when you get a chance. Cool restoration.
     

  19. Thanks for looking in your warehouse but, of course, as luck would have it, a whole damn warehouse full of calipers and not an H-H caliper in the bunch. But, that's ok, I talked to another guy, says he has a whole box car full of H-H calipers. He's 82 years young and says not a goldamn caliper is for sale and he will build as many cars as possible and use the H-H calipers in their construction. He has 4,292 not for sale!!! 1932 rust free Fords with proper patina, Okie Adams dropped axles, Ardun heads and Duvall windshields. He's called "b boner", are you guys relatives? See you at the Iron Invasion.
    Curt R
     
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  20. right, it is the Sonic Challenger, previously known as the X-1. The land speed snow mobile stuff was removed. It is being restored to the original X-1 configuration. Here is a photo taken prior to being taken for paint. Reassembly should start in a few weeks, may have more photos, then.
    Curt R

    hamb x1.JPG
     
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  21. Wow !! Fantastic ! That car is a pioneer. Rocket-mania !!! One of the first. Can you add "Restoration of the X-1 Rocket Dragster" to the top of your title ? HH Calipers may not pull the attention to this as much as that may help. Somebody has some for you. What a great reason to blow the dust off of them .... if so. Incredible.
     
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  22. Good read on the American Oil and Gas site about the X-1 dragster, the Blue Flame, and some of the other early rocketeers.

    http://aoghs.org/news/the-blue-flame-natural-gas-rocket-car/

    Some of the tidbits below ... although way more history at the above ^^ link.

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    Drag race records set by the X-1 dragster and its 2,500 pounds of thrust rocket motor inspired Dick Keller and Reaction Dynamics to scale up to a 22,500 pound thrust engine using liquefied natural gas (LNG) and hydrogen peroxide to power the Blue Flame’s land speed record attempt.
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    Dick Keller notes that following the X-1’s final run in September 1968 at the Oklahoma City Dragway, the natual gas industry began taking notice. “We had a big meeting – you can see the guys in the suits.” The American Gas Association will become a leading sponsor of the Blue Flame.


     
  23. I share your enthusiasm about the significance of the X-1, now there are three of us. I gave thought to doing a thread about the X-1, the time frame and type of vehicle are out of the HAMB focus. If, I find a suitable forum for the X-1 resto, I will post on this thread or pm you. Much appreciate your interest and good words. The hunt is still on for the H-H calipers. Thanks.
    Curt R
     
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  24. Phillips
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    Curt, make that 4 of us! I've been a fan of the X-1 since seeing a picture of it in grade school.

    I truly do not understand why the amazing story behind the X-1, (built by three midwestern hot rodders!) and by extension the Blue Flame, are not more well known or widely discussed. Links below to two GREAT youtube videos, one narrated by Dick Keller himself.

    Perhaps a thread could be started on the dogfight forum since technically this is off topic for HAMB?

    Tons of great footage of the X-1 here, plus detailed info on runs, etc.


    This one is a period documentary specific to Blue Flame at Bonneville. The sheer number of runs made is testament to the strength of the design.


    Back to the topic at hand, does Hayes Brake have a historical archive? They are still local, I know that doesn't get you any parts but it would be interesting if any of the documentation still exists.
     
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  25. Glad to have you on board as #4. So far, the historical timeline on the Hayes Brake website is it. We have contacted the son of the founder of H-H, he looked thru his left overs from H-H, nothing. No old parts have been saved and there is no info on current location of old calipers.
    Check your conversation folder.
    Curt R
     
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  26. the X-1 is painted! assembly has begun. Curt R IMG_1915.JPG
     
  27. ROADSTER1927
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    Can I be #5 Please! Gary:D
     
  28. welcome Gary #5 and that is a way cool old roadster you drive.
     
  29. A Boner
    Joined: Dec 25, 2004
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    Bump to the top
     

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