as anyone ever used these 2 to weld with..i had this bodyman tell me thats all he uses is a clothes hanger and a battary .. how would this work .... i cant wrap my brain around it to figure it out somethin tells me he was ********tn me
A direct short of an auto battery and a clothes hangar? Are you kidding me? Sounds like that guy only told that to people he wanted to kill. Gary
two 12v in sieres 24v and weld rod ok for welding not bare rod. other wise if will stick to metal without the flux. try using bare rod on a real welder not going to work Ed
It might work to some degree but of course as the weld time increases penetration would decrease due to diminishing current. I wouldn't "weld" anything I needed to depend on that way. It also would certainly decrease battery life drastically. Then there's that little business with sparks around a battery emitting explosive gases which they tend to do when discharged rather quickly. Could be a shortcut to "Heaven's Hotrod Shop"
done it! repaired a tie rod WAY back in the woods while jeeping...its not the best weld ,but it will get you by.
How did you do it? Did you use jumper cables? I can kind of understand how it would work but would like more details.
All welding requires is heat. Electrical current thru a small enough wire makes heat. (Think lightbulb) Too much current thru too small a wire makes the wire melt. Molten metal is what welding is about. You could use jumper cables or in a pinch just use the coathangers.
I've seen it done in the field or off-road...crude...slow...but it can get you temporarily fixed & going. Dabirdguy pretty well summed it up. As mentioned, it's not particularly safe. Several years back, somebody put his mind to this & came up with a slightly more sophisticated version: http://www.off-road.com/trucks4x4/C...Article/detail/199775?contextCategoryId=40427
If you have a battery with 100 amps available, you can strike a 100 amp arc, but you will lose amperage quickly. Extremely dangerous. If you lose your arc and your stick is stuck, the battery will quite likely blow.
Didn't JC Whitney carry an actual battery welder in the fifties?? I seem to remember such...cheap and nasty electrode holder and a pair of wires with gator clips...from the days before customers heard of lawyers...
Can it work in a desperate situation? sure but saying all a body man uses is a battery and clothes hangers?...that is ********. When someone extends a fact beyond reality, I tend to mistrust any thing else he might say. He may just be pulling your leg for grins but there are some ******** artists that just can't tell the truth. They just have to embellish the truth to make them seem better than others. God I hate the later types. If he insists that he welds body panels with a coat hanger and a battery on a daily basis, stay clear of him.
You can do g*** welding with Hangers... but that's truly old'school stuff & not certifiable. Also, not the weldment itself, but the filler material (wire / stick / tig rod) that is always better quality metal than the actual pieces of metal your welding together. The filler metal is always better quality. That's not just a fact, but almost always a Given. But Coat-Hanger.....that is the absolute cheapest metal out there. You really REALLY have no idea what that Coat Hanger is made of. Nothing...tensil strenght etc.....NOTHING> If you want a quality weld....you have to follow "At Least" some of the rules, like good material, good filler metal, shiny metal, no rust, no paint, g*** shield when you need too and exactly what kind of g*** you need to shield what kind of metal........But then again......You know nothing of what a Coat Hanger is made off. Not 'You' personally......but anyone.....there's no telling what's in that hanger. Carl Hagan
Just curious just where does a guy come up with a clothes hanger when out 4-wheeling. Never had one stashed in my tool box or spares kit when I used to play with my Bronco. Guess i should have stayed in the Scouts longer and then I'd have been "prepared" properly.
the battery would likey explode, and the coat hanger would burn the **** out of your hand... i think this guy was ********ting you, and if hes not, i wouldnt recomend having him do any bodywork for you or your friends
Not to speak for the other guy, but when I was offroading, I always carried coat hangers in my Jeep. Good for zip tie type of fixes, Hold the door on, hold the broken tie rod on, exhaust, radiators.. you get the idea. But welding with a battery just seems crazy...
slamdpup ... Before you try wrapping your brain around this welding problem, you might consider reviewing your 3rd grade spelling tests. I'm not sayin' my grammar is perfect ... and eye certainlee kan't spel verry gud ... but I at least have the common sense to click the "Check Spelling" ****on: before posting. v/r, the HAMB Spelin' 'N Grammer Poleece
I seem to remember a show about the cars of Cuba where guys would strip wire out of chain link fence and weld with it, but they had it hooked up to whatever p***es for the electrical wiring down there rather than a battery. So I'm sure it can be done.
There's nothing at all impossible here...in fact, probably most of us have spotwelded a wrench or two to something close to our batteries...it is merely bad choice of material, difficult to control, and dangerous. A battery sure as hell has plenty of power to fry up some metal. An intelligent and persistent lunatic could probably develop this into a marginally useful technology!
"...An intelligent and persistent lunatic could probably develop this into a marginally useful technology!" Hey! I think I accidentally defined hotrodding!
I specifically asked a guy about this. Two batteries in series, a pair of jumper cables, a copper penny in one for the electrode and a nickel in the other for the filler, though a wire would probably work easier. You can keep your amperage up by running the engine, but he said it's hard on alternators and kills them. When 4x4 guys break in the boonies, you gotta do what you gotta do to get home. What else are you going to do when a rear end housing busts a tube, or tie rods brake. -Brad
I've repaired battery posts using the battery needing repair, some copper wire, lead, and airarc rod.....even have dies for the posts... But welding with a battery and coathangers????
yep that sums it up Bruce ! funny... I talked to a few old guys who claim to have welded with coathangers. Not a battery though... I actually had the opportunity to see these welds on one of their cars that was a vehicle in storage since the 50's. Its a wonder those guys lived to tell about it. If I needed to weld with a battery to fuel my p***ion. I wouldn't rest until I was able to do it. So I believe it could be done..regardless of (how close the battary is to the hangar.)
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