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Party like its,....1939! Who loves the 30s and 40s?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by CoalTownKid, Jul 2, 2008.

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  1. Yes, I like the early era of hot rodding, but don't care for the culture, music, clothes, etc.

    32.7%
  2. Yes, I'm into the early era of rodding,the culture,music,the style, & the nitty gritty of it all.

    61.4%
  3. I could care less.

    8.9%
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  1. 39cent
    Joined: Apr 4, 2006
    Posts: 1,569

    39cent
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    from socal

    as far as partying all I remember in my family almost everyone smoked, and drank themselves silly, which as I recall exactly what I did, in the 60,s.
     
  2. Koz
    Joined: May 5, 2008
    Posts: 2,786

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    Anybody know if any of these old motor courts survive? Would be cool to take my rod out for a weekend and stay in one of these instead of the Holiday Inn. Preferably Northeast/East coast area.
     
  3. oilslinger53
    Joined: Apr 17, 2007
    Posts: 2,500

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    from covina CA

    heres some pictures from that era. my great grandfather and the mrs.

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  4. CoalTownKid
    Joined: Mar 12, 2005
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    Pm me,...I might be of some help. I've been tinkering with putting on a two-day or weekend reliability run,..I think you'd find the idea interesting.
     
  5. CoalTownKid
    Joined: Mar 12, 2005
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    Oilslinger,...great photos,...thaks for sharing! Its funny your great grandfather seems to have the same "why are you taking my picture!!??" face on him in the later years,...quite the different look in what I'm ***uming is the same gent in the newsboy cap??

    Very cool pics!!!
     

  6. BRILLIANT !!

    WELL SAID !!

    Rat
     
  7. Love those fat fendered '41's. Nothing beats a steel beast.
     
  8. sololobo
    Joined: Aug 23, 2006
    Posts: 8,430

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    C.T.K., Interesting subject--I just watched a dvd ***led Rockabilly Rebel. It gives some history of that music genre, and then flows into the current scene in California. I am a little older than most dudes on here. But I am in the vintage clothing and furniture business so have a little different outlook. a lot of people don't get "the new scene" and I admit it is preety out there sometimes, but I have learned to live and let live. Tattoos are a big part of the new scene and are misunderstood by a lot of people. In the 40's and 50's tats usually meant, drunk on leave! The clothing is also a little exaggerated at times, as in 6 inch cuffs etc. The hair doos also get crazy, when I lived in L.A. and went to a Blasters or Paladins shows the big pompadoors would be a riot. I also befriended mostly Mexican cats. And grew to understand the love of the Bombs they build, and they were the nicest family oriented people you could meet. The rockabilly scene in L.A. is very big with the mexican cats today, they live the lifestyle. Not being oriented to all these cultures drives a wedge between a lot of our members on this forum. So I hope we can all just enjoy our rides and let each other live our individual choices. I miss the "whites" worn by serious race crews of the 50's-60's era. I remember Speedway Motors of Lincoln Ne. crews in whites with chain s***ch logo shirts and pith helmets looking so cool. "Speedy Bill Smith" has and will always be one of the cl***iest guys in the business. Hope your history searching is going well. just wanted to throw in my two cents.-Sololobo
     
  9. Rocky
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
    Posts: 17,630

    Rocky
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    Is that my dad in that photo? Seriously, the first thing I thought was how many chigger bites those beer drinkers were gonna get. Looks like fun tho.
    I'm trying to stay true to the late 30s/early 40s with my 34 ford coupe build, Its' tough with all the electric cooling fans, electronic ignitions etc available to make the build simpler....It was a great era and I usta pump my dad for stories [born in '23..went through WWII, was a mechanic, built hotrods and rode Harleys] about those days and he had some good ones. Wish I could have been there except for the painful dental work, polio etc etc.
     
  10. chromedRAT
    Joined: Mar 5, 2002
    Posts: 1,737

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    thought i was gonna get to post something smart***ed about how the 30s and 40s are too new for me, so i go WWI. beat me to it, dammit. starting up a history club at the school i teach at, good things might come from it. appreciation, preservation, etc. gonna have bake sales and **** to raise funds for outfits that restore WWII planes and etc.

    royal crown revue finally leaking to ohio when i was a jr. in high school was the catalyst. saw barflies at the beach on MTV2 and shat myself. i'd already had several WWII uniforms and weapons by that time, just needed the spark to get with the program. far from fitting in... i'm that one WEIRD guy, but i've been that weird guy my entire life. never saw the flood of zoot suits and the like, but the whole swing crowd pissed me off something fierce, same way folks on here ***** about the modern day rockasillies. i'd rather shoot the thompson than dance...

    times were rougher, but people were tougher, and look at what they did because of it... how many people today can survive floating in the ocean for 3 days after their destroyer gets sunk by a fleet of japanese ships off of leyte gulf, or survive what happened in bataan. my *** wouldn't have made it. we have it easier, and that's both fortunate and unfortunate. we sure the hell wouldn't have the luxury, most of us, of having a hot rod and a driver. I think we're too full of ourselves as a species is all. bet your *** those that came of age before most of us on here are/were considerably more humble. mr. or mrs. housing ***ociation president, traffic tyrant monday thru friday, perfect christian on sunday and control freak at the slightest hint of using authority has forgotten that there isn't much separating us from animals, and it sure isn't their abomination of a house and 2.5 snotty kids that never got spanked are NOT what made this country great.

    most every older person i know looks back at the years in question as good times with difficulties, love the times they've lived through and while they disdain some things today, appreciate everything. my grandma saw her mom die at an early age and experienced poverty unlike most anything we see today. she appreciates what that experience did, and loves my '41 almost as much as my late grandpa's 38 oldsmobile coupe that he drove when they started dating.

    picture i attached is from last school year when i was still just a sub. we had a learning fair at the school i teach at, and myself and some students were there in some of my uniform stash, and i filled a buddy of mine's room almost to the brim with some of my collection. I'm going to wear the WWI in this year's veterans' day parade since it is the 90th anniversary of its end. if you feel strongly enough about the virtues of the past, be an example, as it might make a difference. at the very least, you can bet that there will be a few less ***holes.

    ya gotta know the negative aspects of it though. japan ignores and denies the stuff that they perpetrated in WWII, and the US could do a better job, but people here do hear about the internment of japanese americans and etc. like it or not, we do romanticize it no matter how hard we try not to. i don't reenact, but when i wear a uniform to teach, like it or not, i am riding on coattails of men mightier than i will ever be, and i hope that educating people is virtuous enough to offset that fact.

    enough preaching to the choir, have to get something done, but reading this thread has been worth it i think.
     

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  11. CoalTownKid
    Joined: Mar 12, 2005
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    Yes, there is specifically one that always stands out in my mind that is a total throwback to the 1940s motor courts as ithas been preserved and is still quite open to the public today to my knowledge. One of a few that have not been bought by the Indians and modernized or completely ruined!

    Its the Lincoln Motor Court....

    http://www.bedfordcounty.net/lincoln/
     
  12. CoalTownKid
    Joined: Mar 12, 2005
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    Your WWII boy there has a 29th Infantry on his helmet,....nice choice!
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  13. CoalTownKid
    Joined: Mar 12, 2005
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    Some do, some do not. There is a lot of confusion about what people's thinking is that reenact or are involved in living history born from mere misunderstanding of another's view or mindset.

    The vast majority of the people I know and have known fall into the category of those who do "not" romanticize the war, BUT to romanticize the 1940s as a whole, the good things about it, the good that came out of it and so on. It is easy for one to look at it from this point of view without realizing that those whom are said to romanticize or glorify WWII realize that there is nothing about the "war" side of the 40s to glorify beyond the selfless sacrifices the men and women of that time showed to the world and to future generations to come.

    As far as the internments, etc. there is not one coutry involved in WWII that did not have something they did that was not right. However, you have to look at it from the shoes of those who were there living it. Though I could not see how I'd be that paranoid to have interred japanese americans, I can understand the idea behind it, the feelings of uncertainty and questionability in it all that lead to it. I dont agree but I understand it,...that's what counts. No one should look at waht happened and say "our country did this, or that" because it was not "all" of the coutrymen that did anything,....it was "some" just as it was not all of the German people who decided to become Nazis, though this is a touchy and confusing subject. Talk to surviving German WWII vets and many times you'll get the story of being in a hellish way, having to fight from your country or die as a traitor for not doing so!

    I romanticize the good of those eras and the people who lived in it, ,etc. it truely was one of our finiest moments in history, period.

    Again, kudos to you for what you are doing with your students,...that's wonderful!!!
     
  14. CoalTownKid
    Joined: Mar 12, 2005
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    A story on a local five n dime I frequent! Keep the past alive,...there's nothing like old time personalized friendly service!

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  15. I have ,even prefer the VA hosptial.talk about stories!
     
  16. CoalTownKid
    Joined: Mar 12, 2005
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    A little known bit of history when we needed to pull together to help each other out and we did. Like many of the Hot Rodders that joyfully lend a helping hand to each other...

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    It may not have been perfect, but within that particular respectable president's hands revived a country back to work, on a track to growth rather than dissent and dismantaling greed. It all happened in 1933. The SCTA had held one of its forst meets the previous years, things were still reeling around the country here and there, but the old boys and gals made do,....

    The National Recovery Administration (NRA), created in the United States of America under the 1933 National Industrial Recovery Act, was one of the New Deal programs of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and his administration.

    The NRA allowed industries to create "codes of fair compe***ion," which were intended to reduce "destructive compe***ion" and to help workers by setting minimum wages and maximum weekly hours.

    In his June 16, 1933 "Statement on the National Industrial Recovery Act," President Roosevelt described the spirit of the NRA:


    "On this idea, the first part of the NIRA proposes to our industry a great spontaneous cooperation to put millions of men back in their regular jobs this summer."


    He further stated,...


    "But if all employers in each trade now band themselves faithfully in these modern guilds--without exception-and agree to act together and at once, none will be hurt and millions of workers, so long deprived of the right to earn their bread in the sweat of their labor, can raise their heads again. The challenge of this law is whether we can sink selfish interest and present a solid front against a common peril."


    In the mid 1930s both our president and our fellow countrymen and women bound themselves together, and knew we needed to submerge the greed and stupidity of both big business and the wall street realm in order to re-build America into what it was to become during the 1940s and WWII. This was not new idea, as Woodrow Wilson, also, amidst the conflics of WWI knew that we needed to stabalize the American economy, and did so.


    If we do not learn and remember history, teaching it to our fellow countrymen, children and others who have forgotten, we are truely DOOMED to repeat it,...ALL!


    Historian Clarence B. Carson noted:


    "At this remove in time from the early days of the New Deal, it is difficult to recapture, even in imagination, the heady enthusiasm a**** a goodly number of intellectuals for a government planned economy.
    So far as can now be told, they believed that a bright new day was dawning, that national planning would result in an organically integrated economy in which everyone would joyfully work for the common good, and that American society would be freed at last from those antagonisms arising, as General Hugh Johnson put it, from &#8220;the murderous doctrine of savage and wolfish individualism, looking to dog-eat-dog and devil take the hindmost."


    The turning tide that will change America as our great grandparents did starts with ourselves and a strong knowledge of the past! One man,...one women CAN and DOES make the difference and can make a change!


    I challenge, personally, all those who have taken the time to read this and realize the values that were aimed to be instilled, to be taken upon yourselves and instilled within you.


    To go out, every day and at least once a day, to lend a hand, to another, blatantly, giving unselfishly, without thought for what he or she may get in return, but to give, help, and to pay forward at east some of that which has been given to you in your lifetime, to another, and to help furthur a solution, a return back to the good things that made our gret grandparents the most amazing generation that has ever lived upon the soil of our great nation.


    Who am I?


    I am your friend, your brother, your sister.


    Your Mother, your Father, your cousin.


    I am your grandpanents, your great-grandparents, your dog, your cat, your best friend and the next door neighbor.


    I am both the those in that well-known photo of the men who raised the American flag on Iwo-Jima, and the men who died that fateful day on December 7th, 1941 in the depths of the sea.


    I am the farmer, the teacher, the ironworker, the forger, the mechanic, the ***embly line worker and the grocer.
    I am the blue collar worker and the white collar worker.


    I am a part of you, and I am myself, standing beside you.


    I am crossing the street with you, holding that wrench while you tighten the other side. I am picking up the tomato that fell from your shopping cart, I am holding the door open for you to walk though....


    Will you walk through it with me?


    God Bless America,... and all of my fellow countrymen and women!
     
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