Kill 29 Phaeton just finished....You gotta see this car....

Looks great. Can't wait to see it painted...

 

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I love the detail, but whats going on with the seat back it looks as though it's way far to the back of the car? The photos don't show enough of interior to understand whats going on.--TV

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It does look odd, but for us tall guys, it might be about right.

I know I can barely get in, much less drive my bosses Model A roadster with a stock seat.

Jim Ewing's old 29 just has an aluminum seatback pushed as far back as possible. I fit in it real well. It looks to be in about same place as this car.

Neal

 

No kidding Tman, I don't see where it's fake, I guess nobody knows that people did convert hemi style heads to regular overhead motors, there were a few sbc in the early 60's with hemi heads and Mickey Thompson also made them for pontiac motors. I wonder how many crying baby's out there have olds valve covers on a chevy.


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Injectors

 

Hey I have a windshield just like that one

Man what a NICE car!!

 

Are they Ar Dun heads converted to work on the block or are they covers over the sbc heads and valve covers? the latter is "fake" the former couldn't be "realer".

 

i usually just keep my mouth shut if i don't like something (not ALWAYS but usually) but i'm gonna speak up on this car. it is KILLER! i love it and "fake" or not i think the motor is cool. how many of us have CAST our own intake and if any of us have did it look THAT good??

i saved every picture and i hope to god i get a chance to see this ****a in person so i can crawl all over (and under) it with my camera. super cool. and i love the seat set way back. with the tonue cover on it works for me and makes me think it could be something a CLEVER (and tall) hot rodder might have done back in "the day".


Mike

 

Great car, lots of cool details.
The front mount distributor is legit. They are a few companies out there that made them.
I don't care for the valve covers myself, but you've got to give the guy credit for being able to make that stuff.
I can hardly wait to see the car in person.

 

The thing about fakery is that the perpetrator eventually has to explain to the casual obverver what they're really looking at. Sure some are going to be impressed but others are gonna say it's bogus.

The truth of the matter is that there isn't a single gl*** bodied car owner who wouldn't swap for a steel one in a second. And no I'm not talking about Speedsters and Art Deco abortion pieces of junk, those guys LOVE their cars.

I had a guy want to trade me a mint, painted gl*** deuce 3 window body for my almost junk '34 steel 5 window body. I said, no dice. If I'm a snob for saying that, that's OK by me.

It's obvious that the car above is a thing of real beauty, but I wouldn't want to be in the shoes of the owner when he tells the world there's a SBC under those covers.

Oh and one more point, when the SBC came out, flatheads AND Ardun conversions were relegated to history. Do you suppose anyone back then would have thought about putting Ardun heads on a brand new '55 265" Chevy engine?

Simply put, our hot rodding forefathers never had notions like these p*** through their heads, they had a certain purity that is forever gone. I wish I could have been there in those virgin and untested times instead of living in a era when it's all about style over substance.

PS, I'm a ****ty car builder, and I'll admit I'm not even worthy of polishing Cam Grant's boots.

 

Wow!

I love it!

Sam.

 

I'll take you experienced guys' word above on the engine...if on the money factor alone.

I love the blister on the cowl steering. I've never really like the way cowl steering looked before I kind of like it with that blister...looks more thought out that way. I alos dig the use of the Indian turn signals and the rivets used throughout.

I can't tell on my ****py laptop but is that somekind of reflective paint on the QC and shackles?

I suppose it could be chrome...lol...looks like lime green paint on my LCD.

 

"Simply put, our hot rodding forefathers never had notions like these p*** through their heads, they had a certain purity that is forever gone. I wish I could have been there in those virgin and untested times instead of living in a era when it's all about style over substance."

Bull, a friend of mine just found an old parts catalogue from the "real days" there is some pretty cheesy bolt on gimmick chit in there, so I think it was 50/50 for style and substance back then to.
The car is friggin cool, and the guy makes his own ****, that's hot rodding.
I bet ten bucks(canadian) most of the guys were just doing it to get laid. Kinda like guys' in camaros.

 

I'm thinking after reading this whole thread that what I said has been taken wrong.(that's never happened on the HAMB before, gotta be the first time). If you reread what I said you'll find that I had nothing but praise for the car, its one killer ride. but with everything so great going on with it I COULN'T UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO FAKE AN ENGINE. There are several engines that could have been used that would have been equally *****in without resorting to a coverup. This car is far and above a masterpiece in every other respect and I just thought what a shame it would be for someone to think less of it because of the engine selection. Would I like to have it in my garage? YOU BET YOUR ***!!!!

Frank

 

I'm trying to find something wrong with the car............................

 

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Cool lookin car but......

If your gonna spend lotsa money why fake an engine? As has been said, any cool period motor would be better than a fake motor. then again its his money and car.

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Like I said "cool car", maybe I misinterpreted what you typed as did others, is it a real conversion or the covers over sbc heads?

Not that it matters, he likes it , i likes it, figured if it's posted here it's open for comments.

Opinions are like ***holes, we all have em, just some ****tier than others.

 

Some girls need "bolt-ons"...a little help...and look better with em..(love em!!)....some just go for "gimme the biggest ya got"...(looks fake and idiotic).......I don't see anything wrong with the car...all the "bolt-ons" work well together...I'd love to have it.


BUT>>>>I HATE DUMMY SPOTS.....

 

"The truth of the matter is that there isn't a single gl*** bodied car owner who wouldn't swap for a steel one in a second. And no I'm not talking about Speedsters and Art Deco abortion pieces of junk, those guys LOVE their cars."

I wouldn't.

"Oh and one more point, when the SBC came out, flatheads AND Ardun conversions were relegated to history. Do you suppose anyone back then would have thought about putting Ardun heads on a brand new '55 265" Chevy engine?"

Yep!

"Simply put, our hot rodding forefathers never had notions like these p*** through their heads, they had a certain purity that is forever gone. I wish I could have been there in those virgin and untested times instead of living in a era when it's all about style over substance."

There was cheesey then, as there is cheesey now. It's all in the eyes of the beholder. But it was a fantastic time to be young.....

Mutt

 

I would trade everything I own for a gl*** car...just show up at my house with the Beatnik Bandit and you can clean me out.....It's not what you start with...it's the end result....and the guy that built that car did a great job.

If he ever decides to give it to me, with the stipulation that I never change it, that won't be a problem......and there isn't a guy on this board that wouldn't accept the car under those rules.......I don't think he will give it to me, but I'm living in a fantasy world.....and so are alot of the other people on this board

 

Fercrissake, I just don't understand the point that was originally tried to be made in this post. Everything was so right with this car BUT, why oh why did he put a fake motor in it? Because he wanted to, that's why! And the end result is just melt-your-eyes beautiful. And, there is no reason to explain it to anyone. He built what he wanted to. End of story.

 

Absolutely *****in.! Cam has major talent and a grest eye for integrating interesting details in his cars. It appears he's done his signature windshield modification on this one -- reducing the ****erfly effect at the top of the windshield frame to more closely resemble George DuVall's design. I love it!

 

Hopefully I can add some clarity to this out of control post... I work with a friend of Cam, and according to him Cam made patterns for the head covers, intake, and air cleaner and had them cast. So there are Chevy heads under there somewhere, cleverly hidden using a ton of great craftsmanship.

Also, he wanted to clear up the origin of the modern Duvall windshield and asked that I post this:
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I won't comment on the topic of fake vs. real, engines that is. I do want to clear up the history of the Duvall windshield. The Duvall was originally designed by a guy named Duvall, back in the day. Then in the late 80's a Canadian by the name of Gary Lang decided that he wanted to make his own "Duvall" windshield. Gary is a pattern maker by trade. After consulting with Mr. Duvall himself, Gary made the pattern for the windshield. When people later saw his 36 ford roadster, they all wanted that windshield. That gave Gary the idea to start Past Tech. Gary made these windshields for a few years, before his friend Cam Grant got involved. Then Gary sold Past Tech to Fred in California. Cam continued to manufacture the windshields for Fred. Fred then sold the pattern to Speedway Motors. They then lost the pattern in transit to China. They did nothing about it for a few years. Cam decided that since they weren't making them, that he would start making them again. Cam continues to manufacture most of the Duvall winshields sold. I know personally, that Cam is one hell of a craftsman. I just want to make sure that Gary Lang is recognized for what he started. You can see this car and Gary's latest creation along with many others this weekend, at Deuce Days in Victoria BC.
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Sorry for the partial hijack Shiny.
Too...much...tension...

Cheers

 

OK, I see now by following the top of the seat to the bottom what you guys that are taller are saying, nuff said cars *****en, who cares if has ram horn headers telling you what he did. How many of the rest of us can do as well?--TV

 

From the side the car has a great look and stance. I think the seat is perfect for a tall guy and would be comfortable on a long drive. As for the engine, I reserve comment until seen in person. From the pics shown its looks like a ton of work to accomplish what he has done. Kudos for the effort.

 

TV and others.........you dont need to be tall to NEED more legroom in an "A" Touring! Some of you might remember the Maroon Touring we built that I posted pics of.

Look here.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=399221&Forum=All_Forums&Words=roadster%20burn&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=6months&Main=398651&Search=true#Post399221

I have a true 29" inseam and had to sit Indian style to drive the car before we redid the seat back. On that ride, I actually pulled off my sandals to gain extra footroom! We moved the seat back 4" and cut the foam down to about 2" total. Like I said before, you need all the room you can get, they are WAYYY tighter than a roadster!

I still love that car, even if the covers are now proven to be doll up items. How many of you naysayers would strap a pair of Thickstun covers on your flatty heads if you had em?

And Cams 32 made me decide I needed side steer in my T when I saw it in Street Rodder years back.

 

I've seen a lot of Cam's work over the years and the man understands Hot Rods. Now he builds one with a personal twist and you all go goo goo ga gaw! Damn! That's what Roddin is all about.....building something different, unlike
all you builders of 50's clone cars. Some lead while others follow. You just are following a few years behind on this one!

 

By the outrage you'd think he had put Olds valve covers on a SBC.

 

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I'm thinking of making some fake 'gl*** hemi heads and a 'gl*** 8.71 Jimmy to go on my 215 Buick motor. Spray 'em all up with chrome paint and wire wool it down so it looks like aluminum.

Think 'the boys' will like it?

 

This car is the chit,and every other car and piece he builds is kill too.
I can't wait to see him and the car this weekend here in my town.
Theres a few other "suprises"on this car that I'm not saying anything about.It might cause a real stir here

Heres another pic,a close up of the turn signals.
As for the seat placement,my roadster has prolly the same seat placement.I'm 6'2" tall and I can sit straight legged in my car.Boones,you've been in it as has Spence the monster,lotsa room eh.
Oh yeah.I heard he had trouble with an original 1940s stock replacement,Bonneville Saltflats/Santa Ana Dragstrip approved,Art Chrisman/McGurk built radcap on the way to the show.So he pulled into a service station and replaced it with a 2004 model for now.Hes promised that he'll fix it up as soon as possible. ....Shiny

 

Very cool car, I found this thread kinda late but that car looks "right" regardless of the engine being flatty or not. I would, like everyone else it seems, like to know if those are actually functional heads...doubt they are BUT if they are that is freakin awesome. Thanks for the pics of this excellent auto Shiny.

Greg

 

Well allow me to retort . . .

I think it looks cool, fake or not.
And If I had the resources he did, I would probably do something just as out there, And get just as much criticism They have been selling 348 valve cover adaptors to fit a SBC for awhile.
The front distributor is not fake. It's a conversion for tight fits.
The Indian heads come off the front fenders of Indian motorcycles. They are available from custom chrome.
All n all the overall package is pretty cool.

Let her rip . . .

 

I don't know if it is fair to compair fake ARDUN heads with fake ****s, but these look misaligned. Could be the camera angle but a real ARDUN is wider overall.