what do they weigh??as in compared to a sbc????trying to figure out what to run in my 38 fiat topolino...gonna be my "old guy cruiser"....want something that is able to cruise long durations on the express way...what are the costs of them...the depend-ability of hemi's...and what king of power out of the different ones....i think it would be the coolest motor to install in it...but.......don't want to worry about it needing parts very time i drive it 500+ mies ....yeah i know, sbc is dependable ect...have them laying around...drove blown 400 sbc vega wagon every day for over a year.. and i guess is there any that run out thee that won't break the bank to buy...don't needed to be "fresh rebuild", just good running........opinons.......mark......
1950's Hemi at 1,100 lbs, a SBC at 550 lbs. Yet, the Hemi is cooler! Povertyflats has early Hemi s for sale. Link - http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=294260 He does have other Hemi s for sale.
The link that was listed before my post, shows the 331 Hemi at 745 pounds. Maybe my 1,100 pound answer has the transmission, PS pump-alternator installed? Them Hemi girls always LIE about their true weight.
Hot Heads lists 331/354 @ 697 & 392 @ 737. Says you could lose 35 lbs with modern W/P, Alt,starter, Intake. They are as reliable as any other engine. If you build too wild you'll have problems, like anything else. a buddy of mine has put 100K on a rebuilt 354.
and with a sbc everyone is going to walk on by your car when it has the hood up, i dont care how nice the car is, the sbc kills it's soul. the sbc is the death of our craft and sport.
What? Tell that to 3WLarry who built one of the best examples of a car with a soul. It takes more than just a Hemi to make it happen...
1. Long durations on a stock Hemi? No problem. 2. Costs of a Hemi are at least double of a SBC. 3. "depend-ability" is as any other engine. 4. Power varies just as any other engine. It depends on what's in the guts. A 392 with 354 heads would be a good start. 5. I never did, why should you? 6. I'm guessing no.
It would help to understand where you are coming from. Why do you want a Hemi? Is it a 'look at me' thing? There are other engines that are lighter and more powerful. But if it's a hemi you must have, then .... Big Chrysler early hemis are very heavy (695-735lbs - even more with a blower setup) and you will have a seriously front heavy car (=poor handling) - especially with a Topo. My 0.2c - Dodge Red Ram - maybe 315/325 raised block version. 241/270s have weak cranks. Much less weight, same type of visuals and can look just as cool. Less horsepower, but with a Hilborn or even a blower setup - yes that's right - rare but do-able. You should have more than enough power for your cruiser. Oh yeah and Bruce Crower ran one (270) at Indy, twin turboed. Cheap it will not be, so don't expect SBC costs for a hemi build.
The SBC is one of the best all time HotRod engines of all time !!!!!!...and I own a couple of 392 hemi's...love them too......Littleman...
this isnt even worth responding to..and I dont even know why i went this far what is up with the sbc haters?..why are so many Nubees making such ignorant blanket statements lately?..did some one piss in your cereal this morning..or maybe it was an SBC that showed you its tail lights once too many times? sorry I dont mean to get this thread off subject.. somewhere I saw a list of engine weights..Ill keep hunting for it.. It might take me a while,,all my cars have SBC's in them
here is one list ..not sure if it has yours on it. http://www.team.net/sol/tech/engine.html 331 hemi 745# i think
wow!!!!!!!!!!! i didn't expect some of the responses i got on this one.....................did some more homework on it before i came here tonite....definitly seems like a hell of a lot of wieght for my topolino...specially when i was hopeful to be under 2300 lbs when done...my blown vega wagon only goes 2490...with a glass one peice nose....geuss it's just that i saw so many topo's with hemi's when i was lil at the track....was just a thought....hell i'm a good ways from needin a motor anyway....maybe a sbc with over and under cross tunnel rams???...besides i have been saving those M/T valve covers for a topo for several years now...finned with the be ass M/T in the middle...and my name is Mark...M/T......mark's topolino ....liked that cx-96 cross over on my 62 chevie II alum block 427.... oh well if you don't know the specifics, then ya gotta ask, right??????????? i do know it WON'T BE A FLAT HEAD FORD.....nothing against them, but it just doesn't seem right to me for the lil mouse...hey it's my car , right!!!.......oh well back to pondering the engine for my topo...........thanks for all the good info on the hemi's...........
Well this is a Flathead Ford based engine - V8 60 to be precise - would look great in your Topo since it was made by Simca and they sold the Topo under the Simca brand.
nice lookin motor...doesnt reall resemble a flattie, its got vc's.......what's it cost to find one of these puppies????????hp numbers//torque????not looking for a drag motor, just need something that can do a min of 300 hp +..........
Its a Brazilian Simca EmiSul - hemi - rare and almost impossible to get out of Brazil. How about a British Daimler hemi 2.5 ltr or 4.5 ltr? Limey Steve on the HAMB has the bigger one in his '32. They weigh under 500lbs all up. I have seen a couple on EvilBay in the past six months. The smaller one is shorter than a Chvey V6 - 23 5/8" from back of block to tip of waterpump. The larger one is about the size of a Dodge 315 hemi - a couple of inches longer than the baby Daimler.
The "Complete Chrysler Hemi" book has a weight comparison chart in it on page 191. The 331 Chrysler Hemi weighs 697 pounds; The Chrysler 392 hemi weighs 737 pounds; the tall block Dodge hemi's (315 ci and 325 ci) weigh 611 pounds; the small block Dodge hemi (241ci and 270 ci) weighs 577 pounds; the Chevy small block weighs 528 pounds; and, the Chevy big block weighs 693 pounds. The allure of the old hemi's is they are almost bullet proof (the one exception being the small Dodge's have gained a reputation, whether deserved or not, for crankshaft failures)and are examples of Detroit's craftsmanship at its best. The tolerances on these engines is extremely close and they are built to run hard and stand up under the punishment.
697lbs for a 331 sounds about right. We had one with the original cast iron automatic tranny and it was all my engine puller wanted to lift
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