I have a packard straight eight motor that I am considering selling. It has no rust in the cylinders and is complete, however it has been sitting outside for a long time and does not turn over. What i this worth as is and if I get it turning over? I also have the ****** that would go with it.
Unless you find a dedicated Packard man to sell it to, not much. You may actually find more of a market for the transmission than the engine, since they were tough and were probably the second most popular transmission to use in a hot rod years ago, behind the Cadillac/LaSalle gearbox. There are still aftermarket adapters floating around out there to bolt Packard transmissions to early Olds/Cadillac, nailhead Buick, and Chrysler hemi engines.
Same here, not worth much.. my engine builder doesn't even want to rebuild them, they are way too heavy for moving around and on his equipment. The weight is the only good thing, makes it worth more at the s**** yard.
The Packard straight eight was one smooth running engine. 9 main bearings and the crank weighed 105 lbs... You might want to think twice about tossing it away. I know a fella in Fairbanks who has a restored 37 Packard with the straight eight. He may want a spare engine... I'll ask him.
I believe it is early 50's. I haven't really researched the ****** but it is a automatic and says ultramatic on the top.
That's a good engine but a slushy trans. If you give me the number on the driver's side of the block I'll tell you what it is. Most likely a 53/54, and I think those were 327 CID but still 9 mains. Also one of the more advanced versions (the last ) of their straight 8.
Get me a pic and the numbers off the driver's rear pad below the head and I'll tell you exactly what it is. If it's a 9 main I'm interested.
Greetings! I'm a member of Buckeye Packard here in Columbus Ohio. Our monthly newsletter has cl***ified ads. Most of the very same ads offering Packard engines & trannies have been in there since before I became a member. That tells me there is very little demand for them even in Packard circles. Good Luck selling it. Why not make it the starting point of a very unique car of your own? They are exceptional engines.
FWIW I seem to recall people saying the valves are what stick in these motors and keep you from turning them over. You should be able to free them up with the usual methods. But I agree, there's not a lot of demand for these unless you happen on a Packard guy. Consider parting it out before giving up, though, guys may be more interested in pieces from it than a whole motor.
Like everything the price depends on a lot of things. You don't mention what the ****** is, but if it's a 3 speed stick, then it might be a motor from the 1930s. If it happens to be a super-8 engine with most of it's accessories then you may be pleasantly surprised by how much you can get for it. If it's the pre-war standard-8, I got 700.00 for a frozen one with most of it's accessories. I probably could have done a better but I just posted in the just packard forum (as opposed to their newsletter or hemmings). If it's the post-war engine, the the larger 1954 engine with the 9-main would make a great hot rod engine. If it's the smaller one, then I agree with the other posters in that it might not be worth much. So... you need to figure out exactly what it is.
Sure he does, right here: Packard made two 9 main engines after 1951, a 327 and in 1954 a 359. The 327 was also made in a 5 main form on the "cheaper" cars. The 288 was only made in 5 mains, and are always in Clippers and the lower end cars. The easiest way to tell is to look at the p***enger side of the engine, down low where the oil pump is. There's a galley there that they had to cross drill for the mains, and they put 1/8" NPT plus in the holes. If there's more than 5, you gotta 9 main. Almost all the parts will interchange, other than the 9 main and 5 main crankshafts and the blocks themselves. All the heads, distributors, intake and exhaust manifolds, etc will swap. Bellhousings to convert to manual transmissions are rather plentiful compared to the V8's. From '51 and up, Packard used side engine mounts, and before they used front engine mounts. If your engine doesn't have provisions for engine mounts on each side of the engine, right over the oil pump area, then you know it's 1950 and before. Incidentally, if you need to put a later engine in an earlier car, you can, just by swapping the timing cover plate which holds the engine mount. It's a little harder to go earlier engine in later ch***is, as you'll have to build some way to mount the engine. As for the 9 main engines, they're smooth as silk when running and durable as hell. I'm building on right now that's using two Chrysler 2.2L turbos and will be running on E85. I'd love to get my hands on another 9 main engine though.
I haven't been able to get down to my buddies to check it out but here is a pic I took of it last April (p***engers side). Hopefully next weekend I will have time to get over to it. http://motormayhem.net/downloads/IMG_6147.JPG
That 327 straight 8 is a good engine. A local figure 8 racer won the track championship as well as the national figure 8 ***le with one in a 53 Packard. It had a split exhaust with two 3 1/2" pipes exiting the right quarter panel, hot cam, and a heavily milled head. Even away from the track you could pick out the sound of that straight 8 over the the rest of the field. Torquey monster. I've had that sound filed away in my memory forever.
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