It's best to admire classic cars from afar???

rustynewyorker · Sep 22, 2008

It's best to admire idiots from afar; it greatly concerns me that there are people like this out there who do not have a required nightly bed-check at lights out - and are able to actually get such drivel published anywhere beyond the liberal blog it belongs on. "It's not fair" that that article appears and someone else's thought-provoking, well written article, doesn't. Or for that matter an adverti*****t.

henry29 · Sep 22, 2008

Maybe he watched Christene the night before.

lindross · Sep 22, 2008

Yeah, what a load of ****ola. Email sent with my 2 cents. I'm far more fearful of rotting cars of the 80s-90s with plastic falling off and more smoke than a locomotive, soccer moms doing their makeup and talking on a cell phone, and business ***holes in their Beemers that are obviously too busy and important to care about what's around them.

I find myself not worrying about other cl***ics on the road cause they are usually well maintained and puttering down the road at a reasonalbe speed and they tend to keep proper spacing.

Hubnut · Sep 22, 2008

dragdoc said: ↑

Hey!

Everyone on the board should be emailing this clown! I truly hope this is being spread around the hobby on all levels - hot rods, street rods, muscle cars, pre war, foreign and domestic...this guy should get an earful from everybody! Here's what I wrote.

Wow !

You obviously have no working knowledge of the automotive world. The number of poorly maintained vehicles less than 25 yrs old is undoubtably far greater than the antiques you point out. We had a repair shop in the family for a number of years and the things we saw at times were staggering! I've never seen an antique plate on clapped out junk - the likelihood that someone who is not involed in the hobby would use the antique plate just for economic advantages is very slim.

Before you sit down to write your next article consider multiple sources for your information. DOT stats presented here mean nothing, and to those in the hobby you have done nothing but insult us and show yourself to be ignorant.

Keep your distance from someone's cherished vehicle? Try again...you should fear the 15 yr old minivan driven by the distracted soccer mom. That van that's missed its regular maintenance, the one that makes a noise or rides funny that would allert a hobbiest to problems but goes unnoticed or ingored by the average Joe or Sue.

This article was posted on a website of some real die hard gear-heads; I'm sure you will be receiving much harsher (crude) criticism from my brethren on the H.A.M.B./The Jalopy Journal. Sorry, you deserve it and I hope many other groups find this as well.

Todd F. Wenzon, DDS
Crystal Lake, IL

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First let me say that Im only quoting you because of what you mentioned, not because Im in disagreement with it all. That being said, its a possibility that this guy may have visited Arkansas at some point and noticed all the mid eighties and older, clapped out Chevy trucks and Olds Cutl*** Supremes that run the roads with ANTIQUE plates on them! Yeah its the truth....up till about a year ago not all local DMV offices could hand out antique tags, state law changed that so now ANYONE with a vehicle 25 years old or older can trot down there and get one...and believe me they do! Arkansas has NO inspection law for ANYTHING, nor do they require photos of your "cl***ic" car when registering it. Only proof of insurance. No mileage checks, no nothing, other that signing an affidavit saying you wont drive it everyday and that the tag can be revoked if you do, BUT with nobody to enforce it. I see so many ratty 85 model Grand Marquis that I actually bought a camera to keep in my truck to photograph the vehicles AND their tags just to send all of it to SEMA and make them aware that NOT ALL vehicles 25 yrs old fit the criteria! Its nothing more than people milking a good thing for the wrong reasons.

Jeem · Sep 22, 2008

Hubnut said: ↑

That being said, its a possibility that this guy may have visited Arkansas at some point and .....
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I don't believe that's the case at all with the "journalist" in question. But WOW, I thought this was going to be another JAB at poor old Arkansas, like a JOKE or something. Thanks for bringing this up. ....and yeah, SEMA would be a good organization to inform about this.

Maybe the Clinton's should FIX their home state before trying to SAVE the world. HAhaha

4t64rd · Sep 22, 2008

Mothers Against Old Cars!!! We have to save the children from 58 Imperials!

UnIOnViLLEHauNT · Sep 22, 2008

CustomCab said: ↑

Here's the address of the editor (Glen Kranzley) if you'd like to send him your opinion. I did.

kranzley at mcall.com

I just read Paul Muschicks derogatory story about antique and cl***ic cars and I must say Ive never read a more lopsided story about vehicle safety. Although he admits that these cars make up a tiny fraction of the total vehicle population, are seldom driven and are fanatically maintained by their pampering owners and that there were no known accidents attributable to these cars, he STILL goes on to say they should be admired from afar because they might be dangerous. I suggest he stick to writing about some thing he is a little more informed about, and he owes the entire antique and cl***ic car community a huge apology. What ****!! I will be forwarding his column to all my fellow car club members for their input as well
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His email address is public knowledge...

kranzley@mcall.com

enloe · Sep 22, 2008

Well Mr. Muschick you make a point.

Now let me make a counterpoint, You Are A **** !

DirtyThirty · Sep 22, 2008

I agree with him...its NOT fair.
We should abolish inspection altogether.

sko_ford · Sep 22, 2008

i bet he got "gouged" on a smog check in his '99 civilian mobile

timmy25252 · Sep 22, 2008

Quote from Mr. Muschick on the website today..... "Apparently I'm an emasculated, tree-hugging, ignorant, dope, crybaby posing as a journalist because I dared to point out that Pennsylvania's vehicle inspection system is inequitable by not requiring antique cars - those as "new" as 1983 - to be inspected annually."

Still made no attempt for an apology.......

Gotgas · Sep 22, 2008

timmy25252 said: ↑

Quote from Mr. Muschick on the website today..... "Apparently I'm an emasculated, tree-hugging, ignorant, dope, crybaby posing as a journalist because I dared to point out that Pennsylvania's vehicle inspection system is inequitable by not requiring antique cars - those as "new" as 1983 - to be inspected annually."

Still made no attempt for an apology.......
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No, but he did sum the situation up nicely.

Mike in Tulsa · Sep 22, 2008

Vance said: ↑

He lost me at 'It's also not fair.' Right there should tell you all you need to know about this author.
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You got that right. I thought for sure he was gonna say the guy on the bike didn't have a helmet on either.

In Oklahoma, there are no inspections - at all.

lostforawhile · Sep 22, 2008

Hubnut said: ↑

First let me say that Im only quoting you because of what you mentioned, not because Im in disagreement with it all. That being said, its a possibility that this guy may have visited Arkansas at some point and noticed all the mid eighties and older, clapped out Chevy trucks and Olds Cutl*** Supremes that run the roads with ANTIQUE plates on them! Yeah its the truth....up till about a year ago not all local DMV offices could hand out antique tags, state law changed that so now ANYONE with a vehicle 25 years old or older can trot down there and get one...and believe me they do! Arkansas has NO inspection law for ANYTHING, nor do they require photos of your "cl***ic" car when registering it. Only proof of insurance. No mileage checks, no nothing, other that signing an affidavit saying you wont drive it everyday and that the tag can be revoked if you do, BUT with nobody to enforce it. I see so many ratty 85 model Grand Marquis that I actually bought a camera to keep in my truck to photograph the vehicles AND their tags just to send all of it to SEMA and make them aware that NOT ALL vehicles 25 yrs old fit the criteria! Its nothing more than people milking a good thing for the wrong reasons.
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now not all of us with eighties cars are driving junk, I have spent a good deal of money and time overhauling my suspension and brakes to make my car safe, nothing is falling off of it, and I have parked it in my garage until I can afford to get new tires,due to the fact i don't want to endanger anyones life with my tires being worn out. I belong to a site for these cars .and we all try to help each other out to maintain them properly and find parts,which are getting scarce. I have to agree on the ones that are being driven around that are junk piles,but not all of them are like that. Here in Georgia you can get your tag at 25 years, and in a couple of years I will be glad to get one,these cars are a lot of work to keep on the road and keep safe. and i've done plenty to make sure it stays that way. I wish there was a way to do a simple inspection that wasn't a h***le. I mean if someone is driving around in a car with shot out tires, a busted headlight, **** falling off, and belching clouds of smoke, maby someone should say something to that person about getting it fixed. we have illegals everywhere here, who drive POS vans like that, and they are the kinds of cars that need to be off the road, those of us who maintain our cars,and take care of them, we would have nothing to worry about.

Rich Venza · Sep 22, 2008

For those who have not followed up on this story in the newspaper, take a minute and click on the original story, then follow through to the comments folks from all over the country have been sending in. It's great reading...almost as good and the HAMB.

O..and the guy still thinks he did a good job bringing the inequities of the PA inspection system out to the public.

ps Allentown is a nice little town, but not the big time. I'm guessing this guy has a regular job and does this column on the side.

rustynewyorker · Sep 22, 2008

Maybe we're just reading the article ***le wrong...

"It's best to admire cl***ic cars, from a fart."

fleetside66 · Sep 22, 2008

This article is from my hometown newspaper. After many many years, I cancelled my subscription, not because of his uninformed article, but because of the general deteriorating quality of the stinkin' rag. There are many reasons that his generalizations are off base & I'm sure they'll all be covered on this forum. I wonder if they'll invite him to be a guest speaker at Allentown's new "Wheels of Time" transportation museum? I think Dennis Gage was supposed to be there this weekend because of the Model T anniversary. I wonder what Dennis would have to say to him since he rides around in everyone's dangerous antique cars every week?

flynbrian48 · Sep 22, 2008

I emailed the author of the abovementioned editorial, and politely pointed out where he's in error. Whether this makes any difference or not is debatable, but I felt better!

The whole thing brought to mind something that happened last week in 'Vegas, while riding around with my son in his "new" '62 Impala. We were on Tropicana (probably the busiest surface street in town) at 5:30, and some jack*** in a car next to us was, get this, shaving with an electric razor. He had the visor down, watching his progress in the mirror (I could look because I was riding shotgun, and this dufuss was in the right hand lane, we were in the left).

Not only was he shaving with his left hand, he was TYPING ON A LAPTOP SET UP ON A TABLE ON THE P***ENGER SEAT WITH HIS RIGHT HAND.

While I was fishing in my pocket for my cell phone to photograph this jerk, he nearly rear ended the car in front of him at a red light, tires locked up and smoking. We left him and the inevetable accident behind as quickly as we could.

I suppose if we'd have been in front of him rather than beside him, and he'd piled into the back of the Impala, it'd have been the Impalas fault for not being equipped with a third brake light. Not that this daft clown would have seen it while shaving and emailing.

Brian

Sam F. · Sep 22, 2008

the author is right...(while i dont agree with the horse **** HE wrote)

...,,it actually IS best to admire old cars from afar.....

,,unless of course you have the bucks and are buying one finished or having one built for you and when its all said and done you dont have anything to do to it,but wax it,check the oil,and other maintinence,,,,

but if you are building one....and if you value your free time,,your sanity,your money,your family and all that goes along with that,,,then YES,,it is best to admire cl***ic cars from afar....

Bob Dobolina · Sep 23, 2008

so...i email the "author" of said article, not expecting to get a reply. This is what i got:

Mike,
I stand by my story. PAs inspection law is flawed by allowing one group of car owners to police the condition of their own vehicles, and requiring others to subject to a paid third-party inspection. Any car thats 25-years-old and up to manufacturer standards can get antique plates. That means I can buy a 1982 Datsun thats in good condition now, let it rust in my driveway for 10 years and drive it back and forth to work each day if I can keep the engine going. Thats not right, and it does have the potential to be dangerous. It was not my intention to single out cl***ic show cars. The column never uses the word cl***ic. It uses antique, which is the PA licensing definition. Cl***ic was a term used by the headline writer that shouldnt have been used. The photo also shouldnt have been used.<O></O>
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Funny thing, i never used the word "cl***ic" in my email to him...and this reply adresses exactaly NONE of the points i brought up.

i'd bet he drive a Prius

roddinron · Sep 23, 2008

DirtyThirty said: ↑

I agree with him...its NOT fair.
We should abolish inspection altogether.
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Let's not go overboard, the way most "civilians" take care of their cars, I don't want to share the roads with them if that happens!

29 sedanman · Sep 23, 2008

Bob Dobolina said: ↑

so...i email the "author" of said article, not expecting to get a reply. This is what i got:

Mike,
I stand by my story. PAs inspection law is flawed by allowing one group of car owners to police the condition of their own vehicles, and requiring others to subject to a paid third-party inspection. Any car thats 25-years-old and up to manufacturer standards can get antique plates. That means I can buy a 1982 Datsun thats in good condition now, let it rust in my driveway for 10 years and drive it back and forth to work each day if I can keep the engine going. Thats not right, and it does have the potential to be dangerous. It was not my intention to single out cl***ic show cars. The column never uses the word cl***ic. It uses antique, which is the PA licensing definition. Cl***ic was a term used by the headline writer that shouldnt have been used. The photo also shouldnt have been used.<O></O>
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Funny thing, i never used the word "cl***ic" in my email to him...and this reply adresses exactaly NONE of the points i brought up.

i'd bet he drive a Prius
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I got the same email from him today. What a jack ***!

Cajun Kenny · Sep 23, 2008

Bob Dobolina said: ↑

so...i email the "author" of said article, not expecting to get a reply. This is what i got:

Mike,
I stand by my story. PAs inspection law is flawed by allowing one group of car owners to police the condition of their own vehicles, and requiring others to subject to a paid third-party inspection. Any car thats 25-years-old and up to manufacturer standards can get antique plates. That means I can buy a 1982 Datsun thats in good condition now, let it rust in my driveway for 10 years and drive it back and forth to work each day if I can keep the engine going. Thats not right, and it does have the potential to be dangerous. It was not my intention to single out cl***ic show cars. The column never uses the word cl***ic. It uses antique, which is the PA licensing definition. Cl***ic was a term used by the headline writer that shouldnt have been used. The photo also shouldnt have been used.<O></O>
<O

Funny thing, i never used the word "cl***ic" in my email to him...and this reply adresses exactaly NONE of the points i brought up.

i'd bet he drive a Prius
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canned respounce due to excessive e-mails ? cut / copy / paste! viola!!

Mopar Mama · Sep 23, 2008

Jesus! There's no correlation at all between the two things. And for that matter, **** happens. Not just to old stuff.

temper_mental · Sep 23, 2008

We need to watch out this is how it can start .Some dumb *** gets a crazy idea that has bite and off to the races some politician goes .Texas has the same law but we can only drive to car shows and parades ect not every day use .I drive my car once or twice a month I should pay my share ? I do. My2 cents

hotrodpodo · Sep 23, 2008

Posted a reply and sent an e-mail to the editor. Hard to believe that an article with such an obvious lack of research behind it and that makes such broad generalizations could get published.

daddio211 · Sep 23, 2008

Sent mine. Long winded and he probably won't read it but good therapy for me, LOL.

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The responsibility of informing the public is indeed your job. The responsibility of correcting bogus information is the publics, me in particular.
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Paul Muschicks article is absurd. It is laced with a few facts and a tremendous amount of opinion in an apparent attempt to scare others to action. A little research on Mr. Muschicks behalf would have served your paper, your community, and the cl***ic car community well. Instead, providing irrelevant information and twisting it in such a way that potentially creates fear a**** the public is irresponsible.
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Mr. Muschick did get a few things right, but he got a lot more wrong.
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No one's checking the brakes, tires, lights, bodies and other equipment those of us with modern vehicles must have tested. Initial registration requires these checks by a state licensed safety inspector. Continuing routine safety inspections is the responsibility of the vehicle owner.
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That doesn't make sense. You'd think older vehicles need to be checked even more closely, not ignored. Who DRIVES these vehicles? Who BUILDS these vehicles? Who RESTORES these vehicles? People who are meticulous and P***IONATE about vintage automobiles. People who painstakingly took the time and care to make each inch of the vehicle to the best of their individual ability. And when the individual cant handle some of the details, they call friends who can, or pay professionals to do the task.
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The rest of us must pay to get a mechanical expert's ***urance that our cars are safe to drive, while owners of antique cars get to make that call themselves. Thats true. Because the VAST MAJORITY of citizens dont have the knowledge, experience, or p***ion to maintain their own late model cars. When they hear a distressing noise they take it to the mechanic, or worse, pretend they dont hear it. How often do you hear vehicles with squealing brakes??? We vintage car enthusiasts diagnose, repair and maintain these issues ourselves.
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The reality is, though, after Pennsylvania gives you an antique license plate, the government doesn't monitor your vehicle at all. The plate is good for as long as you own the vehicle. There's no annual registration. Partial truth, stretched to meet Mr. Muschicks personal agenda for this article. How many miles are put on a vintage vehicle annually? Of course every vehicle and every owner differs, but the states use this regulation to ENCOURAGE cl***ic vehicle owners to keep their cars on the roads. Some are driven less than 10 miles a year, some are driven 10s of thousands. The average cl***ic vehicle is driven less than 3000 miles per year.
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Yet the state doesn't require antique car owners to submit annual mileage statements. It leaves enforcement of the limited driving provision to police, who aren't in a position to do so. And the point is? Is Mr. Muschick suggesting that there is something to actually enforce here???
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A man wrecked his 1974 motorcycle on Route 309 in South Whitehall Township after blowing a tire. The accident left the driver critically injured and tied up traffic. Luckily, debris from the blowout didn't injure anyone else. Although this may be truth, and my deepest sympathies go to the motorcyclist during his or her recovery, how much motorcycle tire debris have you witnessed in your lifetime? I am also a motorcycle rider and have had a close call with a flat tire. It has NOTHING to do with the age of my motorcycle (which was three years old with two new tires when I had the flat), but has everything to do with the maintenance of the cycle. In my case my tire picked up a utility knife blade that someone had carelessly discarded in the street. Certainly no fault of mine, as this cyclist in the article may have also had picked up something on the roadway out of his control.
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I thank reporter Tracy Jordan for writing about the lack of a required inspection on the antique-licensed vehicle, something she told me the township police officer wasn't even aware of. You mean that every police officer is supposed to know every law in effect? Wow. Do they do that in the academy? What does this have to do with Mr. Muschicks article?
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There's no way to know why the motorcycle's rear tire blew. It could have hit something. It could have been a bad tire. Or it could have been worn out. Sure there is Mr. Muschick, you go and LOOK at the tire of the wrecked vehicle, you dont just lead the public to believe that this was negligent on the cyclists behalf. Again, another blatant mistruth.
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I know, I know, there aren't that many vehicles on the road with antique plates. Of the 11 million vehicles registered in Pennsylvania at the end of last year, about 122,000 were antiques. If accurate, thats a higher number than any other state in the union. For the mathematically challenged that means that 1.1% of vehicles in Pennsylvania are registered as antiques. More than 1 in 100??? My travels take me all over the country and Pennsylvania seems to have roughly the average amount of registered vintage autos as any other state, except possibly Missouri, Texas, and Arizona which seem to have a much higher population of registered cl***ic cars.
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I suspect most of you are fanatical about your vehicles, keep them in tip-top shape and don't drive them all that much. They're just for fun, and the truth is, not any old car qualifies as an antique. You suspect. Have you spoken to one of us? Did you perform ANY background work?
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Still, it takes just one mechanical failure in one vehicle at the wrong place and time to hurt others, or at the least inconvenience them by stalling traffic. Ah yes, finally some truth. Mr. Muschick, has your Toyota Prius or Honda Civic broken down yet? Was it in the wrong place at the wrong time? Did it inconvenience other drivers? Shame on you.
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The Pennsylvania Department of Transportation doesn't collect data on accidents involving antique cars, and whether the cause was related to something that could have been identified during an inspection. Well Mr. Muschick, what exactly does the PDOT do? Are you really suggesting that when they see an accident involving a car of 25 years age or older that they simply STOP an investigation? Wouldnt that be irresponsible, such as this article?
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I found only two other reports of antique car accidents in The Morning Call's archives since 1992, with neither mentioning a cause. Could it possibly be because these cars are meticulously maintained? Could it be because they are driven with great care? Could it be that another person rear-ended one of these cl***ics? More self promotion slant to the article.
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So the next time you p*** a vehicle with an antique license plate, admire its novelty. But keep your distance. Yes, yes indeed. But not because it is dangerous, quite the contrary. May I re-write the article for you? Thank you, please read below:
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Its Best To Admire Cl***ic Cars From Afar
Cl***ic car owners work tireless hours, spending time in the garage instead of on the couch, saving every penny, and lovingly working on vintage vehicles which were hand crafted by craftsmen years before their own time. Restoring, reconditioning, and hot rodding a car is largely a family affair involving husband, wife, children, brothers, sisters, parents, friends and neighbors. The work is as much of a bonding experience for those involved as any other activity. It keeps husbands home and away from the bars. It keeps kids home and out of trouble. The work requires a special talent and skill set, lost long ago that very few still posses and attempt to p*** on.
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When you see an old car you may think its cool, but respectfully stay back. These owners have put thousands of dollars and thousands of hours into these vehicles, forming family bonds while doing so that make these vehicles so much more than an old chunk of steel. Please dont kick the tires. Please dont touch the paint. Please DO tell us you like it. Please DO tell us your dad had one just like this. Please DO tell us that you learned to drive in one just like it. Please ask to see the engine if that sort of thing interests you.
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There are industry ***ociations such as the SEMA Action Network (www.semasan.org) that work tirelessly with state legislatures to enact reasonable and SAFE practices for vintage vehicles. This is an industry that supports the cl***ic car hobby, and that the cl***ic car hobbyist supports. They provision laws for SAFE vehicle construction, modification, and restoration. They have seen many wonderful changes in laws that govern cl***ic cars, and have been instrumental in making these changes happen. These changes are better for the state, the car owners, and the citizens.
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So please, admire cl***ic cars from afar, but admire them none-the-less and tell the owners how neat you may think they are. Complementing someone on such hard work always generates a smile of accomplishment and gra***ude. And you may even be offered a ride.
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Eric Hibbs
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And Muschick better admire my cars from a VERY GREAT DISTANCE or he may get his *** knocked out.

forty1 · Sep 23, 2008

I just filled out a comment on the newspaper web site: printed a ton of replies,, we should ALL send a 'letter to the editor'

Gerg · Sep 23, 2008

I found only two other reports of antique car accidents in The Morning Call's archives since 1992, with neither mentioning a cause.

That is one of the last lines in the article. That in itself should have told him to not bother writing this article.

Hot Rod Michelle · Sep 23, 2008

Von Dago said: ↑

I hope everyone reads the article.
Now stay far, far away from me as I drive my old car.
Don't tailgate me anymore when I'm driving my old car.
Don't cut in front of me when I'm driving my old car and trying to keep a safe distance between me and the car ahead.
Put your cell phone away when I'm close by in my old car.
Pay extra special attention when I approach an intersection in my old car.
Stay far, far away from me in my old, dangerous car.
Just stay far, far away.
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AAAAMMMEEENN (AMEN). The truth is not the shape of my vintage car, but rather the ***hole in the new cocaine white 3 series 'B'mer that thought he could beat me through an intersection; and in making a left turn in front of me almost took my hood off.
But that reporter doesn't wright about YUPPY ***holes and their piss poor "I own the road" driving habits, now does he?

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