I am starting to brainstorm my next project. I want a Model A (just like everyone else) but I think I will need a back seat as my family gets bigger I cant only go for a ride when we have a babysitter. Do any of you guys have a model A with a back seat. Im guessing Tudors would be the best option. I want a channeled Tudor though. Post some pics if you do, I havent seen any lately and I searched through the Tudor Clubs post also. I know the Z of the frame drastically reduces the room back there but has anyone put a seat on top? Its just a kid sitting back there as long as they are buckled in they're good right. JC
I've seen some channeled Tudors with back seats. I think it limits the type of rear suspension if you want a seat back there. I'd bet you would have to run coilovers to get a decent about of space.
Yeah, I run coil overs in my tudor set up. 5" step in the frame, 4" channel, 4" chop with the back seat. Not comfortable for me, but my daughter likes it. My wife has ridden back there before and says it is not that bad, but she is about 5'3".
Get a Murray body 4 door, why do you have to channel it? Build it on a 32 chassis and have a high boy, All these channels Tudors are not to traditional. Doc.
hey I got an idea... don't build your model A to the point of stupid where you can't put a back seat in it due to the extreme channel and frame kick up. I heard that people at one time built model A sedans on TOP of the frame... some even had fenders. this is what is known as the good old days.
There are allot of them that are way off, but they can be cool if done right with a little bit of planning. A step back to look at the proportions instead of laying a body on the ground and biulding around it will go a long way.
I like this a bunch. As we say in the south "I'd damn sure be seen in that!" I'm 6'1 and have had five knee operations so getting down into some severly chopped and channelled rig is out of the question for me. When I get around to it, it will be a highboy for me.
You could build a raked hot rod and get rid of many rear frame kickup clearance issues. Maybe it's a midwest thing, but when I think hot rod, the car that jumps into my head doesn't have rear tires above the body's fender line. good luck (you can't go wrong following Tracy's lead, that car has knockout proportions in person)
Hey, I fully agree, my old 28 RPU sat ON the original A frame. Check out Binga's beautiful RPU!! Doc (I just like the look of a 32 frame under an A)
MY 28 is channeled 4'' ! Rear seat came out of 80's subaru , It will unlatch and fold down . Only for the kids though !
I just didn't want the cookie cutter Model A... seems like everyone is putting them on deuce rails and using deuce grill shells... I wanted something that was different than everyone else had...
My sedan is zed in the rear and front no channel.It has a rear seat my wife or kids can ride in but I am nearly too big.I dont have any pics because I tore down the mock up sunday to get ready for paint.
Don't forget kids grow! Why build a car just to sell it in a couple years anyway? My 29 Sedan will remain inchannelled, unchopped, on the 32 frame. My kids will ride with us in it for years!
To me they have to be channeled at least over the frame. Fenderless cars sitting on top of frames just look half assed IMO.
Tracy your car is the one I saw the other day and reminded me that I need a tudor not a coupe. I want a coupe dont get me wrong, but you know how it goes. Can I see some interior pics Tracy. And Im not looking to lay body on the ground but i dont like to see frames of vehicles. I understand the Hiboy aspect but I dont have a 32 so i wont have a hiboy. Its just what I like too. and the nontraditional comment, I base my vision off of traditional aspects but I want my own ideas as well. Thanks and still waiting for some interior pics!
this is were mines going.. The rear will be about 36" floor to roof so a little small for someone of height but not terrible. That would be with a 2" channel and a 4" chop. A far cry from where I originally had the stance.
Ever heard of frame covers, or rolled pans, or to use a modern term, rocker panels. Not all cars have to be channeled, some can use the above and look channeled while retaining all the interior space you have left after chopping the top.
i'm going to try putting a back seat in mine. you mainly have to plan your suspension and your gas tank situation. I built a higher kickup because i made the rear crossmember sit directly over the pumpkin. this way, the gas tank will sit behind the seat and drop slightly below the rear crossmember. the tank has to sit low so the gas fill cap will be below the rear window. i'm going to build the 1x2 subfloor for the seat to rest on. the seat will probably be 5" foam on plywood. i should be able to fit back there (I'm 5'10") but my legs won't be able to stretch out. you can see what i've done so far here... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2149434#post2149434 Bryan
I was looking at the seat in the back of my moms Suzuki SUV. Have not put a tape to it yet but looks like it might make a good fit. Rode 600 miles on one and it was comfy as well.
I am building a highboy sedan and I have a highboy truck [FTF] and I drive it year round....What the hell do fenders have to do with driving a car ..............
I don't have an A yet but I plan on building an A sedan setup like Tracy's 29. I would like to see some back seat pictures too. Maybe a couple of frame pics?
I'm in the process of starting my 28 Tudor project. I really like your tire combo. What wheel rims and tire sizes do you have? I'm planning a 4 inch chop and 3" channel in a WWII theme (aircraft gauges, bomber seats, pitot tube, etc). Rod
You can channel a car without Z'ing the frame. Think about it 'Channel' means drop the body over the frame. Once the frame is no longer visible, you are looking good. Setting a car up even lower limits the use of the car and 'use' is the only criteria unless you are building a trailer queen/weekend only type of car I vote with the other guys who suggest building a good useable sensible car that you will be proud of when the 'ratrod' fad passes.