Thanks for the info, the more I look at that Carter the more I want to keep it. I was originally planning on running three Rochesters, but the Carter would look great on top of one of my McFarlands (and it would definitely be different). <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From Flathead</td></tr></table>
Thanks, the more I look at that Carter the more I want to keep it. I was originally planning on running three Rochesters, but the Carter would look great on top of one of my McFarlands (and it would definitely be different). <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From Flathead</td></tr></table>
no, you sure seem to have missed mine completely. if you have to ask why, then you'll never understand.
no, better yet... this board is all about the EARLY years of hot rods and customs. you ask about what people were doing right around the 60's, well, WHO CARES? the farther into the 60's you go, the fewer of us here are going to care what the hell they did. its about a period in time. its about a state of mind. its about style. and a flat motor has more of that in one cylinder than in a FLEET of SBC's
Canada used aluminum for a lot of their intake manifolds; but not all. The original Canadian Merc 4 barrel intake was one example of cast iron. It weighed nearly 50 pounds! Both Offy and Edelbrock made/make ALUMINUM 4 barrel manifolds for the flat head. Canadian flat heads were manufactured in both the Merc (4" crank stroke) and the "plain Jane" Ford versions. (3 3/4" crank stroke) - and ... both until 1954!
I thought the cutoff was '64. The HAMB is centered around traditional rods and customs not 'the early years'. You were the one who made the crack about "I would do blah, blah, blah" and you started off with that instead of posting something meaningful and helpful. There was of value in that post or any that followed. That is certainly not the way to spread the 'gospel'. From here on I will just be sure to use "sarcasm" tags when I see your handle so I can keep you up to date.
So it's possible that the manifold is Canadian (I ***ume Offy and Edelbrock would be cast into it if it were one of those)?
Iknow this isn't exactly on topic but I'm really looking for some info on flatty Identification... I tried to put a thread up a few days ago but it never went on the board. If you guys have some really quick and easy ways to figure out whats worth $ and what ain't please let me know. P.M. if you don't wanna screw up this guy's post anymore than I'm sure I already have. Thanks
I don't know if Ford Canada ever made an ALUMINUM version of the Merc 4 barrel intake. As far as I can find out they didn't. The three Merc 4 barrel manifolds I have are all CAST IRON. Someone might have ground off the Offy or Edelbrock name on one of their aluminum manifolds just to confuse the troops.
Not at all, that's exactly what this post was about. I want to learn about them too (or did until I found out what some of the people who praise them are like).
Sorry to be mean. But with the info you have provided; you might as well have asked, "How high is up?"
Thanks Dave, I misread your post. Excellent point about grinding off the name. The intake on is smooth and doesn't have that cast look to it. Plus, it was painted over so maybe someone was trying to make it look stock (probably hard to do with a 4 bbl sitting on top).
I love small blocks, they've been the **** since the fifties, but I wouldn't yank a flathead in favor of one! Flathead, the original(and for many, the ONLY) hot rod motor.
it may have gone under the wheel befor it was painted maybe polished at onetime. and the "cut off" for a car is yes 64 but alot a guys do perfer the earlyer style. smoothy street rod has no style
Hey; don't go away mad. Do some research before you start asking the value of flat head parts. e.g. a 4" stroke Merc is starting to become "gold." Here is a good starting point. http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/flathead_home.htm http://www.agt.net/public/bboogaar/ If it's pre-40's, worth a bit more; but only to those looking for those kind of parts. Late 40's, supply starting to "dry up." (most popular years) Early 50's, - US production ended in 1953 - still plentiful.
Sell the whole ch***is with the drivetrain in it to somebody who will appreciate it. Don't piece it out, especially since you don't know values. If you weren't half the continent away, I'd come knocking myself. Gotta be a hundred guys in your county alone that would love a stock '32 ch***is with a flathead in it.
Not mad at all, Dave. If the other guys comment had been preceded by useful information (such as yours) I would have paid it the respect it deserved. Posting negative comments just for the sake of having yourself heard is sophomoric at best. Thanks for the link.
I was originally going to do that but someone here on the board contacted me about buying the frame and another here locally wants the engine. If it were original to the ch***is I would try to keep them together. It seems more good will come to more people by parting it out.
I checked the links you gave me, Dave. The heads are what everyone said, 49-53 Merc. The site showed a pic of the EAB/EAC and it appears to have the same exhaust manifolds as this engine (did the exhaust really flow from the front of the driver side manifold to the front of the p***enger side and then both out the back of the p*** side mani?). It also appears that I need to remove the bellhousing and look inside for the block code because all I found cast into the flange is the serial # (it looks like 42924) which means that the block should be 49-54 as well.
I heard a gentlemen today talkin about the the EAC heads are the highest compression heads that ford made, true or false???
Block code numbers inside the bell housing won't confirm much. The big indicator is the bell housing itself. If its non existent, (ends at the back of the engine) then the BLOCK is a 49 - 53. (54 in Canada) It will have a ring bolted between the back of the engine and the transmission. If it has a cast bell integral to the block at the back; then the BLOCK is pre-49. Heads, water pumps, manifolds, etc. will interchange from early to late blocks; so to identify years of engine blocks without seeing the top of the head surface (shape of the head cooling openings and bell housing) by the markings on heads is a "**** shoot!" as to the year.
dude, i'm not tryin' to tell you what to do with your car but maybe i can shed some light on why others (myself included, i admit) are up in arms about the SBC (or whatever else) that is going in there. Just looking at the engine, from what little i can see of the rest of it, you're taking apart a piece of hot rod history. Who gives a **** about performance, by modern standards that is, on an old original hot rod? "it's not how fast you go, it's how cool you look getting there". If i saw this 32 with that flattie in there i would look that old girl over for a half hour. SBC, i'd probably walk by it. In actuality, by 64 there were still a TON of flatheads in hot rods. SBCs weren't just growing on trees then as much as today. Sure, "everyone has (insert whatever item here)" but there's a reason...some things are just plain awesome and awesome stuff never goes out of style. Why do we all have straight axles and buggy springs in our traditional model A hot rods?? they just look awesome. they ride like ****, but they look great. I have no problems with SBCs. BUT most people just half *** it and bolt on whatever valve covers fit, some edelbrock performer carb, alternator and call it a day without any thought to style. And they are everywhere, sorry... it's true. My vote is to leave the Flattie. If anything, it's already in the car, and that alone (if it is a real 'survivor') adds to the value of your car than a later drive train. just this guys $.02 so ultimately it's your decision! p.s. let's see some shots of the whole car
You better check that carb real close before using it.Most of those carbs were probably 500 cfm or less.If you are using it on one of the intakes you showed it will not flow enough cfms.If it is off a 348 or similar motor it might be ok.Those are great carbs if done right but you might need 2 of them if you are building any kind of motor.Looks like an Ohio car to me.
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