Hot Rods Stopped at a gas station and wound up buying a car

That was probably the best tank of gas you ever bought......

 

PM coming your way.

If you seriously want to sell it let me know. I'll pay for the PHS Docs if the price is right.


BTW - Cash in hand.

 

This guy had 421 flags on it just like the 66 2+2s, I thought it was an option because of that. Getting older can screw up a memory, maybe it was a few years later and he installed a 421 in his 64 and added the flags. No reason for me to be BSing here.

A lot of my buddies owed GTOs, I couldn't afford to buy one so built a Poor Man's Goat a coupe of years later out of a 66 Tempest Custom and went out and blew there doors off with a sleeper.

 

I didn't doubt you when you said 400, it was a common enough swap. I could have, and really should have, bought a 65 Goat with a 400/4spd and not a clone from a friend that was moving down to Missouri 10 years ago for 4,000 bucks. The car was in excellent shape, just needed to be stripped and repainted. The paint was all checked.

 

Check the head code & take a look here. Might help figure it out.

http://www.wallaceracing.com/head1.htm

 

So we finally know what he paid, and every post before this says nice score without knowing.
OK nice price but WTF ??? Don't no one care? Good score at any price? All previous posters have more money than brains?

 

It could have been a Bobcat by Royal. They put 421s in 'em. In fact, the infamous Car & Driver car had one in it.

 

I know the name Royal, where were they located? I'm drawing a blank but I do know they built quite a few cars quarter pounders.
So maybe it was new then. There were/are quite a few well do do people in the area I grew up in.

Locally we had Motion Performance in Baldwin, Long Island.

 

Royal was Ace Wilson's dealership in Royal Oak, MI. It was the back door performance outlet for Pontiac through the 60s during the ban. My goat has a '71 455 in it w/tri-power so a descendant of the 421. I wanted a Bobcat style car & the real ones are untouchable if you can even find one for sale. Some mean stuff came out of there when Milt Schornack was back in the shop.

 

No GTO's came equipped from the factory with 421's or later - the 428's. That said, SOME dealers were known to do things for more money !

Jim Wangers told me this back in 1985 at the GTOAA Western regional meet.

 

DOH, they also supplied the light weight fenders and hoods didn't they. Weren't the front bumper aluminum also?

 

Yep, Royal would build you anything if you had deep enough pockets and you are correct. NO 421s came in them from the factory. Hell, they had to sneak them out w/389s until GM realized they might be on to $omething.

 

You are thinking about the swiss cheese Catalinas. Pontiac actually built those but dealerships like Royal converted some on their own too. Very cool cars!

PS: Speaking of hoods, real '64 GTO hoods are like gold these days. No one has re-popped them in metal so the only option is glass. Real steel is VERY hard to come by.

 

A cousin through marriage had a 61 Bonneville, it might have been a Catalina with a 389, tri-power and 4 gear convert in a baby blue with a white cap. Damn, that car was something else to a 12 year old kid.

Soory, going way O/T now.

 

Yeah, the bubble top coupes with tri-tone interiors were tits! Pontiac built some sweet stuff in the 60s!

 

Yes they did right up to the 66 2+2. And the 63 Geand Prix was amazing for that that time.

Axle and JW, you both seem to know your GTO histories, I hate to see any of use get off on the wrong foot about any of it. Would be cool to research it some though.

 

Yep, my dad had a maroon '63 GP that he bought after he sold his '56 Chrysler 300. Ugh! That was the car I came home from the hospital in.

Now, you are right, back on track. Who's going to order PHS docs on this car?