My parents were going through Arizona on I-40 and hit an Elk in their VW van. Smashed the front,tore off my mom's right leg,broke her jaw,broke her left leg,broke her right arm,and turned my dad black-n-blue! The van was totalled. Got the call at 4AM from the Dr. who said she wouldn't live. My mom was a strong woman! Lived 17 years after the accident and never missed a beat! The woods are on the south side of the frwy and a dear farm is on the north side. The elk cross the highway to get to the dear. Three other cars and a motorcycle hit dear the same night.
um we are talking about deer here, we took the natural balance of things and totally screwed it. the deer population has exploded. that's why there is so much damage to more and more cars every year, and they eat everything in their path. If we have created this problem then it's up to us to fix it. at least if we have to do something, the meat could go to feed people or something useful. the predators and prey kept each other in check for milenia with no problem, then we come along and wipe out half of the equasion.
here in pa the hunters are complaining about the lack of deer and the way the state has managed the herd. i still see an awful lot of roadkill. i think the state is one of the national leaders in roadkill.
That's good to hear. My aunt and uncle live in Wisconsin, and he used to hunt...still knows a lot of guys who do hunt. I saw him a couple weeks ago and we were talking about it, and he was stunned at the GA bag limit. But he is out of the loop. My friend hunts avidly in Ohio, and there the bag limit is still very low, and the gun season is only two weeks. Here it's October thru December. As for deer vs. human argument...I'm curious what the guy in the Bronx thinks we need to do? Everyone out of the country and into the cities and build them straight up like New York? No, thanks. To say the deer population has exploded because we wiped out the predators isn't really accurate. What goes after deer? Bears...okay, but they're lazy, and will eat veggies, squirrels, grubs, berries, etc. It's not like each bear was bringing down a deer every other day. Mountain lions and pumas? Yeah, I'll give you that one. But again, they weren't particularly thick either. Wolves and coyotes. Absolutely. But coyotes are on the rebound, and they're actually back to being a menace. They're in most counties east of the Mississippi now. But even so, they feed on EVERYTHING, not just deer. A bigger problem is that deer are extremely good at adapting, and they've done just that. They've moved into subdivisions, metro parks, golf courses, and any place else it's safe and food is abundant. To think we're pushing them out of their habitat is insane. And to think that we're moving into theirs doesn't hold much water either. Fact is, they're more than happy to move out of the woods and into the city parks and back yards. Nature is very good at making the food animals in the food chain abundant. Each doe has a fawn every year. A bear has a cub every two years. I think a whole pack of coyotes has a single litter each year. Nature is set up to make the food supply abundant. It's a problem...and hunting is still the very best solution to it. -Brad
I know they taste great! Never hit one..yet,(with a vehicle, unless you count 180 grains of lead, a "vehicle) without being in "check" any species of animal can get out of control..just look at mankind.. lack of natural predators in their environment will always bring their numbers up ,and the building of citys and rural areas growing, your going to come into wildlife. And what comes with co-habitation with them?..finding them on your roads and in your back yards..just cant let the tree huggers and frog kissers tell us it aint ok to eat them. Because than we will just have an even worse situation because right now the Human is probably one of the Deers largest predator, at least up here in lower east michigan we dont have many nautral predators for them anymore.. #1 freeway #2 Hunters #3 lone wolf up north somewhere #4 natural death or desease not necessarily in that order.
I hope you ate it. I met an old *** hot rodder, in like his 70s, at one show who kept a photo album of the deers he hit and pics of them in his trunk, taking them home to eat them.
Yeah, My daughter just hit a deer with my Jeep Cherokee on Halloween , now I gotta get a new grill and raditor, earlier in the day I hit a cat with my wifes van. Bad day for the animals around here Friday.
I helped a deer commit suicide on the way to work the other morning in my dually. Have had 3 near misses since then too.
YA! I do remember all the deer out on 246 between Buellton and Lompoc. I remember back in the 80's 4 or 5 horses were killed out on that road, those guys that live in Buellton drive like crazy up and down 246!!! HAHAHA!! Just Kidding!
What we need to do is have comp***ion for all living creatures.... Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean you should kill it. There's a lot of dictator's throughout history who had that same idea, I guess you agree with them too? Everything that's alive deserves to live it's life (child molester's and ******s excluded)... The fact that a human can refer to an animal as being "dumb" or "stupid" and wants to kill it because it doesn't "respect" your property is insane. It's an animal, it doesn't have the brain capacity to make informed decisions about weather or not it's bothering you. But as a human you do and should be smart enough to show an innocent animal mercy and pity for it's situation. My thought patterns don't stop at "me"... And as much as we'd like to think so, the world doesn't revolve around us. P.S. Shouldn't you be in the garage building cars rather then sitting in the woods dressed up like a bush for 12 hours hoping to shoot a deer? This is getting way too Off Topic for The H.A.M.B.
Hit a deer at mile 67 on I-75 in Kentucky on my way home from florida in my V10 Dodge ram order number --001 (yup first one ever ordered. Still have it) I was doing about 85 mph in the p***ing lane and was boxed in so I had no where to go. It hit deead centre in the grill which immediately vanished in a shower of plastic. It broke the rad mounting brackets and the rad kissed the fan but never burst , only started leaking. I wired it in with a coat hanger I had in the truck and my wife bought five cans of HD stop leak at the walmart and some antifreeze as quick as she could. I cobbled it up and with the cap loose drove it home (almost 1000 miles) Talked to town cop there, officer Beavers, in the Walmart parking lot who let me use his name as a refeference to my insurance company so if anyone knows him tell him thanks. Cost $2800 to fix the truck, Never dented any body metal. Bambi did not survive. It was 98 or 99. I would have to look it up. Don
We have a big population of deer on Long Island on Fire Island and out east. The William Floyd Parkway is a notorious place for having one jump out at you. I keep an eye peeled and keep the speed down to 60, a lot easier to gas it or brake depending on what happens. I was in a buddy's body shop one winter, there was a Blazer with the whole right side seriously rumpled from a deer strike. I asked him what that brown **** was down the side of the car. He said, that's it, deer ****! It seems that the deer was on its way to drop a deuce and had one in the chamber. Bob
sorry about the damage..but that laying in the gr*** is dinner!..that ****er wouldnt lay there for very long after i had determined it was dead, it would be in the trunk as res***ution, and soon on my plate
Tore off her leg! (**** me runnin' !) thats' gotta' hurt for a long time, strong lady indeed ! I drive an A100 van all the time and joke about its lack of a crumple zone , but I sure wouldn't want to eat any of that **** !
there is nothing wrong with hunting a deer, would you rather people kill them quickly,or wait until they have eaten everything in sight and are slowly starving to death. since the population has exploded they will basically wipe out every bit of vegitation less then five feet above the ground, then when they run out of that they starve to death. they are great with potatoes and gravy too, or in the case of B***, with hushpuppies and grits. humans are predators too,we eat meat, just because we don't jump out of the woods and bite the animal ourselves,doesn't make us less. well we have the tofu grazers too,but thats a different topic.
When my wife worked State Farm Ins. & stick on "DEER ALERTS" came on the market, her claims were reduced about 50% when people started using these small, but very effective units, they come in black or chrome! I have them on all my cars, when p***ing close to deers I notice their ears seem to twitch a bit from the hi pitch noise emitted when traveling above 35 mph!------------Don
congrats on the all time HAMB low , thats got to be the stupidist ****ing thing i have ever heard ... brian i pray nothing like this ever enters your life ..
Unless you're the body man picking out bits of "debris" from the repair areas. Been there. I will never forget the elk or moose or whatever giant-antlered creature it was running across in front of us one time on the turnpike in Ohio. It made it thru the northbound lanes okay, but the sight of those four spindly legs, outspread in a horizontal pattern after it jumped headlong into the side of a gas hauler trailer's semi doing 65+ MPH, and it consequently spinning like a figure skater in mid-air until it landed off onto the shoulder is forever burned into my brain.
Owls will get you too. Your headlights illuminate a little critter and boom! Owl through the windshield. One almost killed a friend of mine years back, and I almost got it driving to Bonneville last time between McGill and Wendover. I try not to drive at night if I can help it.
Please re-read what I wrote.... I don't think that any human who violates women or children deserves to live... That's why I wrote "excluded"...
I consider myself very lucky so far concerning deer hits. I've only hit 1 so far in my 11 years of driving in Ohio. I nailed that one on a 4-lane highway even, but thankfully got slowed down before impact. My Mustang survived pretty nicely as well considering she was up on the hood kicking at the windshield before sliding off. Total damage was a hood and the left side lights. Took me 2 hours to fix thanks to my parts collection Of course now that I've said that, I'll probably total my truck tonight. I just hope if I get any more that it's in my beater, not my year old truck or my 59 International or even more so, my motorcycle. Growing up in Ohio I've gotten to see many of my friends and relatives vehicles torn up from deer hits over the years. Watching a deer explode on the nose of a semi is something I'll never forget either. Nothing left but a red mist. I live out in BFE farm country and have near misses every week. Last week, I nearly got 5 in a 2 mile stretch. Only thing that saved me was I was alone on the road and could run high-beams which was just enough for me to see the reflective eyes further away and get slowed down well in advance. Last fall, 1/4mi from my house, after getting the Jeep stopped, i counted 15 standing either in the road or beside it, staring at me. So how many hits have you all had in one vehicle? My dad is up to nearly 20 in a 98 Ranger. So far the worst damage was when he plowed a herd of 7 of them in one shot(killed all 7.) Dented the bumper, dinged a rocker panel, filled the alternator with fur/meat and knocked the trailer light plug out of the socket. Thankfully his truck took the hit on that one, instead of me and my Mustang a few hundred feet behind him. I'm sure that one would not have ended well. I've had more than my fair share of other critters though. Rac****s, squirrels, rabbits, dogs, cats, possums, birds, a goose and an owl. Rac****s have decided my Mustang is their suicide machine for some reason. I really hate s****ing their fur/flesh out of my catalytic converter sheilds. As for plant/crop destruction, my neighbor farms nearly 2000 acres as a rotating 50/50 mix of corn and soybeans. 2 years ago he claimed over $30,000 in damage to the corn crops due to deer. Another neighbor also claims he hit one last week in his field...with the combine. Be careful out there, these things blend in well and bolt out of nowhere in an instant. Sorry for rambling
Dont forget to hug a ****ing tree on your way out... ****, pull the trigger and load up the freezer...they're as bad as rats and Obama supporters...
your right brian , i did need to re-read that and i will man-up and say i was wrong! your still a bambi lovin douche! The story is below for those who are interested. I thought some of you might get a kick out of it. I had this idea that I was going to rope a deer, put it in a stall, feed it up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it. The first step in this adventure was getting a deer. I figured that since they congregated at my cattle feeder and do not seem to have much fear of me when we are there (a bold one will sometimes come right up and sniff at the bags of feed while I am in the back of the truck not 4 feet away) that it should not be difficult to rope one, get up to it and toss a bag over its head (to calm it down) then hog tie it and transport it home. I filled the cattle feeder then hid down at the end with my rope. The cattle, who had seen the roping thing before, stayed well back. They were not having any of it. After about 20 minutes my deer showed up, 3 of them. I picked out a likely looking one, stepped out from the end of the feeder, and threw my rope. The deer just stood there and stared at me. I wrapped the rope around my waist and twisted the end so I would have a good hold. The deer still just stood and stared at me, but you could tell it was mildly concerned about the whole rope situation. I took a step towards it..it took a step away. I put a little tension on the rope and received an education. The first thing that I learned is that while a deer may just stand there looking at you funny while you rope it, they are spurred to action when you start pulling on that rope. That deer EXPLODED. The second thing I learned is that pound for pound, a deer is a LOT stronger than a cow or a colt. A cow or a colt in that weight range I could fight down with a rope with some dignity. A deer, no chance. That thing ran and bucked and twisted and pulled. There was no controlling it and certainly no getting close to it. As it jerked me off my feet and started dragging me across the ground, it occurred to me that having a deer on a rope was not nearly as good an idea as I originally imagined. The only up side is that they do not have as much stamina as many animals. A brief 10 minutes later, it was tired and not nearly as quick to jerk me off my feet and drag me when I managed to get up. It took me a few minutes to realize this, since I was mostly blinded by the blood flowing out of the big gash in my head. At that point I had lost my taste for corn fed venison. I just wanted to get that devil creature off the end of that rope. I figured if I just let it go with the rope hanging around its neck, it would likely die slow and painfully somewhere. At the time, there was no love at all between me and that deer. At that moment, I hated the thing and I would venture a guess that the feeling was mutual. Despite the gash in my head and the several large knots where I had cleverly arrested the deers momentum by bracing my head against various large rocks as it dragged me across the ground, I could still think clearly enough to recognize that there was a small chance that I shared some tiny amount of responsibility for the situation we were in, so I didn't want the deer to have to suffer a slow death. I managed to get it lined up to back in between my truck and the feeder.a little trap I had set beforehand. Kind of like a squeeze chute. I got it to back in there and started moving up so I could get my rope back. Did you know that deer bite? They do! I never in a million years would have thought that a deer would bite somebody so I was very surprised when I reached up there to grab that rope and the deer grabbed hold of my wrist. Now, when a deer bites you, it is not like being bit by a horse where they just bite you and then let go. A deer bites you and shakes its head.almost like a pitt bull. They bite HARD and it hurts. The proper thing to do when a deer bites you is probably to freeze and draw back slowly. I tried screaming and shaking instead. My method was ineffective. It seems like the deer was biting and shaking for several minutes, but it was likely only several seconds. I, being smarter than a deer (though you may be questioning that claim by now) tricked it. While I kept it busy tearing the bejesus out of my right arm, I reached up with my left hand and pulled that rope loose. That was when I got my final lesson in deer behavior for the day. Deer will strike at you with their front feet. They rear right up on their back feet and strike right about head and shoulder level, and their hooves are surprisingly sharp. I learned a long time ago that when an animal like a horse strikes at you with their hooves and you can't get away easily, the best thing to do is try to make a loud noise and make an aggressive move towards the animal. This will usually cause them to back down a bit so you can escape. This was not a horse. This was a deer, so obviously such trickery would not work. In the course of a millisecond I devised a different strategy. I screamed like woman and tried to turn and run. The reason I had always been told NOT to try to turn and run from a horse that paws at you is that there is a good chance that it will hit you in the back of the head. Deer may not be so different from horses after all, besides being twice as strong and three times as evil, because the second I turned to run, it hit me right in the back of the head and knocked me down. Now when a deer paws at you and knocks you down it does not immediately leave. I suspect it does not recognize that the danger has p***ed. What they do instead is paw your back and jump up and down on you while you are laying there crying like a little girl and covering your head. I finally managed to crawl under the truck and the deer went away. Now for the local legend. I was pretty beat up. My scalp was split open, I had several large goose eggs, my wrist was bleeding pretty good and felt broken (it turned out to be just badly bruised) and my back was bleeding in a few places, though my insulated canvas jacket had protected me from most of the worst of it. I drove to the nearest place, which was the co-op. I got out of the truck, covered in blood and dust and looking a mess. The guy who ran the place saw me through the window and came running out yelling "what happened" I have never seen any law in the state of tennessee that would prohibit an individual from roping a deer. I suspect that this is an area that they have overlooked entirely. Knowing, as I do, the lengths to which law enforcement personnel will go to exercise their power, I was concerned that they may find a way to twist the existing laws to paint my actions as criminal. I swear..not wanting to admit that I had done something monumentally stupid played no part in my response. I told him "I was attacked by a deer". I did not mention that at the time I had a rope on it. The evidence was all over my body. Deer prints on the back of my jacket where it had stomped all over me and a large deer print on my face where it had struck me there. I asked him to call somebody to come get me.I didn't think I could make it home on my own. He did. Later that afternoon, a game warden showed up at my house and wanted to know about the deer attack. Surprisingly, deer attacks are a rare thing and wildlife and parks was interested in the event. I tried to describe the attack as completely and accurately as I could.I was filling the grain hopper and this deer came out of nowhere and just started kicking the hell out of me and BIT me. It was obviously rabid or insane or something. EVERYBODY for miles around knows about the deer attack (the guy at the co-op has a big mouth). For several weeks people dragged their kids in the house when they saw deer around and the local ranchers carried rifles when they filled their feeders. I have told several people the story, but NEVER anybody around here. I have to see these people every day and as an outsider.a "city folk".I have enough trouble fitting in without them snickering behind my back and whispering "there's the dummy that tried to rope a deer."
Yea,right at the knee! Which is usually what happens in those "in front of the wheels" vans. When I got the call,the first question I asked was "what were they driving?". They had a Volare,that was like brand new,but always took the VW van on trips. There was alot more protection in the front of a Volare!.
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