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Cast Iron 409 headers

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Little Wing, Nov 9, 2008.

  1. Little Wing
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    Anyone know the story on these things? are they factory ?
     

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  2. squirrel
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    they do look original, but not a matched pair.

    this is from a 1961 Hot Rod mag article.
     

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  3. oldstriper
    Joined: Nov 29, 2005
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    The short one is either low performance 409 or 348. The long one is an over-the-counter manifold for special high performance 409 engines. Not sure if it was available on the car during production, maybe just a parts counter item late '62.
     
  4. 303racer
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    whats the numbers on them ? and ya they are stock
     
  5. Little Wing
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  6. tomslik
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    hmmm, i need a set of those fer my 348 i scrounged up;)
     
  7. Moonglow2
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    My memory is a little fuzzy but here is what I recall. First off I am talking strictly about hi-performance 409s. The manifold on the left was factory equipment up through 1962. Here is the fuzzy part. I believe the 1963 through 1965 manifolds were changed.

    When I rebuilt my 1962 hi-perf 409 in 1973 I needed new exhaust manifolds so I went to the local Chevy dealer and bought a new set. The new ones looked a lot different. They were more streamlined castings. I still have them on the engine. The thing is this. I am not so sure that mine are as long as your picture on the right which leads me to suspect that you may in fact have a manifold from the 427 Z-11 W engine that came with a valley cover, raised dual quads and cast streamlined headers. A good chevy parts man might be able to confirm that.
     
  8. Left one is a standard 348 (all) and low-horse 409 manifold. There are varying outlet sizes for this design depending upon which engine it was originally intended. You'd need to cross-reference the cast number to determine original application.

    Right one is a '61-64 high-horse 409/Z11 manifold, and were also installed from the factory on those cars. Reproductions of these are available, but expensive. Part numbers were #3822295 and #3822296
     

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