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Flathead Block Useable?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 19Ford39, Nov 27, 2008.

  1. 19Ford39
    Joined: Aug 26, 2007
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    19Ford39
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    from Texas

    Well this is block no.3. First two had issues (both 8BA style), this 59A looked pretty good when taking it down. I think it was used for an industrial motor in its last assignment (I was told an icehouse). No cracks that I can find. A little rust in the valve area. Standard bore, even crank was standard. I had it tanked to clean out the gunk and noticed the front water pump area on the passenger side. I thought it was sealer when I first took it apart. Upon furthr instpection it looks to have been broken right between the two holes of the pump. Someone brazed it together again. It is fairly strong as I pried on it some and i don't think it is an area that bears a load (going into 39 truck). I think the other outer bolts bear the load. Has anyone seens this problem before? Should I just grind it smooth and go?

    http://picasaweb.google.com/joptaylo/59Flathead#

    A mild hop up is planned.

    Happy Thanksgiving

    John
     
  2. AlbuqF-1
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    AlbuqF-1
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    from NM

    I'm not seeing any bronze?
     
  3. Dale Fairfax
    Joined: Jan 10, 2006
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    Dale Fairfax
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    Looks like some amateur had to change a water pump somewhere along the way and didn't know about the hidden bolt inside the pump. He pried on with a big enough bar that he broke the casting. If it's been that way for years, it'll probably last for a few more.




     
  4. srdart67
    Joined: Feb 3, 2008
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    srdart67
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    from Sharon, Wi

    personally i wouldnt trust it its just to soft. grind it out and get some tig in there then grind smooth if you must
     
  5. 19Ford39
    Joined: Aug 26, 2007
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    19Ford39
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    from Texas

    The camera flash whited out the yellowish color of the brazing. I think that is exactly what happened.
     
  6. Fraz
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    Fraz
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    from Dixon, MO

    I'd be more worried about that big pile of metal shavings I see in the 5th picture
     
  7. Yea grind it out and tig it. There is stress in this area from motor mount.
     
  8. eaglebeak
    Joined: Sep 17, 2007
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    There is no pressure on that area. The bolt in the middle is just to seal the gasket. Go ahead with it.
     
  9. Bill Van Dyke
    Joined: May 21, 2008
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    The problem with block cracks is the end of the crack you can't see. Can you mag light the thing in any way to see what you are really dealing with? The one on the outside looks pretty close to the water jacket. No way would I run it without at least TIGing the visable cracks and refacing. There are some machine shops that used to have blockoff plates to presurize and check for leaks. Don't forget that it may look fine until the block is heated when running.
     
  10. 29nash
    Joined: Nov 6, 2008
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    I wouldn't grind on it. I've used permatex hardening type on the gasket on surfaces that looked worse than that with no leaks...
     
  11. Flat Ernie
    Joined: Jun 5, 2002
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    Flat Ernie
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    Should be fine.
     
  12. 19Ford39
    Joined: Aug 26, 2007
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    19Ford39
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    from Texas

    Thanks all. I will have the machine shop look at it as well. Those shavings are from trying to drill out one of two broken head studs.
     
  13. Shaggy
    Joined: Mar 6, 2003
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    Shaggy
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    from Sultan, WA

    If it ran before it'll run again
     
  14. Bruce Lancaster
    Joined: Oct 9, 2001
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    If crack is between the holes, it is terminated. I would just Loctite a stud into the hole so threads never have to move again, use a brass nut.
     

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