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I need custom spindles, can anyone help?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by duct-tape, Dec 2, 2008.

  1. duct-tape
    Joined: Apr 10, 2007
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    duct-tape
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    from milwaukee

    I need spindles with 22mm shafts.
    How can I get that?
     
  2. Rob Paul
    Joined: Nov 11, 2005
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    Shafts? Kingpins? Axle?

    Elaborate a little bit.

    ROB
     
  3. duct-tape
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    from milwaukee

    duh.

    33 ford axles, ford spindles, I need 22mm spindle shafts
     
  4. I don't know if 22mm is smaller than a stock Ford spindle, but could you just bolt some Ford spindles to a block or disc of aluminum, and then chuck it up in a lath and turn down the spindles until they're 22mm? Maybe use a live center to keep the tip of the spindle from wiggling while you're turning it down?

    If 22mm is bigger than a Ford spindle, could you machine some spacers or sleeves with a press fit over the Ford spindle?
     
  5. Rootie Kazoootie
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    22mm=.880, so I think he's talking about kingpins (?)
     
  6. Rob Paul
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    DUH.

    Not really called spindle shafts in any realm of the automotive industry.

    What are the spindles from? F-1 truck? 28-48 p***enger car?

    Why are you trying to resize it? Is the axle kingpin boss worn out?

    For this they dont use a bigger king pin. You machine out the boss and press in a sleve, and then ream it to stock size. New spindle bushings and you good to go.

    Ive never seen anything worn out to .880", (22mm)

    Post wnat the spindles are from and it will make more sense.

    ROB
     
  7. duct-tape
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    i wasn't talking about the kingpins, I was talking about the shafts. The outer bearing seat is 19.7mm and the inner is 30mm. I spoke to a couple bearing shops and they said that there wasn't a bearing that would fit my application with 42mm hubs.

    apparently the side load for conical wheel bearings is roughly 2500lb.
    I did some digging and found the correct needle bearings that are tested to 11,000lb. they should be sufficient.

    In the end i will not ave to modify the spindles, I was about to find the right bearings to match my hubs.
    thanks to all.
     
  8. JohnEvans
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    One question what the hell are you trying to do??? Taper roller wheel bearings have been standard for years and are well proven. If I'm following you ,you want to use straight needle roller bearings Why?? . How do you plan to control side thrust, you will need inner and outer thrust bearings also.
     
  9. And why the **** are you using metric?
     
  10. gnarlytyler
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    Yeah!!:confused:
     
  11. duct-tape
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    why the **** would it matter if I use a form of measurement that the REST of the world uses?

    Maybe it's my degrees in engineering that led me to decide to use needle bearings on the inners and ball bearings on the outers. I've more than doubled my personal requirements for side loading and static load and max rpm.

    Just because it's standard doesn't mean it's best.
    Most parts are built and designed for the most cost the effective solution for manufacturers to save pennies on every little piece.

    The wheels that I'm using are motorcycle racing wheels that run bearings with a side loading of less than 1/10th of the new bearings. With my rear engined car, the front end of the car is only 290lb suspended.


    I hope this clears up any questions and I don't need anyone cussing at me about my units of measure.
    Thanks for answering my original question about milling the hub shafts.
     
  12. Geez, you could have just said that to start with Mr Wizard:rolleyes::D
     
  13. phat rat
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    But if he'd done that he couldn't have told you that he had multiple degrees in engineering
     
  14. True:eek:
     
  15. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
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    Unkl Ian



    Then you shouldn't have any trouble
    machining up your own spindles from scratch.
     
  16. revkev6
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    holy **** I'm lmao.

    just like an engineer to argue about bearing types and what he needs to use but have no clue how to go about it.


    This is the HAMB. Henry used inches and so do we. it's the way they were built. rear engined cars with motorcycle racing wheels doesn't sound very hamb friendly anyway, what are you building??
     
  17. wbrw32
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    Someone gonna get the popcorn???????????
     
  18. Sounds interesting. If you are doing something oddball, you need to give as many details as possible, I had a hard time figuring what you were asking as well.
     
  19. billbrown
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    oh **** son. Ill bet Jamco could do something for you. They are super nice and wont hate your usage of metric wizardry.
     
  20. DE SOTO
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    car is only 290lb suspended.



    OK,OK ....... wait a Minute here, Lemme get this straight .......

    Your saying that Standard conical seat bearings are good to 2500lbs.

    And the bearings you want to use are good to 11,000 lbs.

    Now i run a '56 DeSoto Hemi & Iron Case A-833 4spd upon my 2500lb bearings with no problem like has been donr for a 100 years.

    and you want to go thru the process of putting 11,000 lbe bearings in MOTORCYCLE wheels on a car that weighs 290 lbs ???

    Now i have been known to be a Dumb Muther ****er.... But does this sound like way over kill to anyone else but me ?

    I knew the Engineers at work were outta there mind, But i figured it was cus they were BOOK smart and had never even actually WORKED in the field they Engineer!!!
     
  21. DE SOTO
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    Kev, Dont that sound like most of the Dragsters from the '70s ?
     
  22. revkev6
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    yep, cept for 2 things:

    dragsters don't have any side load, and the hamb cutoff date is pre 70's :confused:

    guy comes on being criptic in his first couple of posts and is nicely asked for more info and comes back with an at***ude. NOT worth the time to help :rolleyes:
     
  23. sko_ford
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    just w****m in duct tape
     
  24. I was gonna say that, but I didn't want to be a smart***.:)
     
  25. revkev6
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    do they make metric duct tape??
     
  26. I realize we are havin' a little fun with this guy, but I am curious how this problem could be solved, all kidding aside. This info could apply to any make/year of car.
     
  27. DollaBill
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    Richard D:

    Following this thread, I am a little confused myself.

    The guy is using Ford spindles...and a 33 Ford axle, so i think we can ***ume early Ford spindles.

    Obviously, a typical hub won't work for him, since he's (apparently) using the hub that is ***ociated with the "motorcycle racing wheel" he is using..

    The original question was confusing because of the terminology. ***uming an early Ford spindle, there is no seperate "spindle shaft",,,in fact, I am not even sure there is anyone making an aftermarket 2-piece spindle, but even if they were, the solution would be the same.

    Turn it, right? I mean, how hard is that?

    I guess my point is...this isn't a "problem", per se. My guess is that out of the 1/2 million posts on the H.A.M.B., there is only ONE "where do I get 22mm spindle shafts" questions.

    I am not bagging on you, I was just wondering if I was missing something...because i think that if someone wants to alter the dimension of a spindle pin, for whatever reason...all you need is a lathe, right?
     
  28. ELpolacko
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    This statement:

    Measured against this statement:

    = really funny!
     
  29. Stick004
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    Ha ha ha... i didn't even catch that. And here I am at work using the "rest" of the worlds measuring system.

    I'm gonna start measuring in jelly beans.
     
  30. captain scarlet
    Joined: Jun 11, 2008
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    taking a flying guess from the public profile he is building an old B##tle with a Speedway straight axle kit:D:D:D

    He is also so uptight since he gets yelled at all day in telemarketing:D:D:D
     

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