Selling anything and everything for money...

Who or what is "Gondie"?

 

Ever see the comic strip, "Blondie"? Gondie is Blondie's sister.

 

I'm one of the un-educated Mohandas Gandhi [wise man]

 

It's gonna get worse before it gets better...what sucks is that there are definitely vultures out there...I have my Riviera for sale for 17,500 and a guy offered me 10K and stated hey Christmas is coming up you might want to think about that. When I have bought cars/projects in the past I have always hated purchasing from somebody who really needs the money because you definitely don't want to take advantage of them but you know they need the money...hope and prayers that we all come through this sooner than later but others are right...hold on it's gonna be a bumpy ride

 

This case sucks. Yes this dude seems to be a vulture.
There is a difference between "praying" on people selling items like yours by trying to sucker punch the price down, AND going after good deals in which the "listed" price is already reduced by people who need the money.
Pay a fair price. If you don't like it, thinks its overpriced, move on. This is not Tijuana.
Some people have no consience. I had told one guy a story about my son having heart problems and the cost associated with it.
He had the balls to mention that I could sale one of my cars to HIM to take care of it.
Now this was a cost I can cover, and that was not the point, but for him to use that as a method to go after one of my cars almost floored me.(trust me, he was not trying to be sincere in the least.)

Find good deals....But be kind to the ones selling too.

 

I have noticed prices dropping recently as well. Back in June when gas and diesel prices were peaked, I bought myself a used truck. I ended up getting it for $8K less than they had originally listed it for 2 mos before I bought it, $6K less than the book value. I'm happy as a pig in shit with that. Since I bought it diesel prices have done nothing but drop steadily.

More and more deals are popping up on craigslist. Thankfully I'm able to hold on to my junk piles, but for those who can't or don't want to, now is the time when they are forced to put a down to earth price on their stuff.

 

For years now in this country prices have been rising faster than wages and it was all funded on easy credit. That is a house of cards, and the pendulum always swings both ways. We have been giving our manufacturing and other production jobs away for years because it was always cheaper somewhere else.

Remember when the call centers got moved to the midwest? The left and right coasts bitched, but it got done because it was cheaper. Now, the call centers are all in Hyderabad, and we all complain. But it is 'Cheaper'.

Business decisions that seem to make sense one at a time (if only one company moved only one process overseas, so what?) create a tipping point after they are bundled. That creates a new reality, and yes boys and girls, we are slip sliding into the deep end of the pool.

It's not going to be so cheap when we lose our ability to buy things any more. Even those overseas call centers will get hurt, since we won't need to make support calls for stuff we never bought.

We have been giving away our manufacturing and production - once our national competitive advantage - and we have replaced it with the make-believe. Like financial systems that carve up and sell one mortgage seven ways. Maybe not such a good idea, especially when the original mortgage was shaky to begin with.

The easy credit ride is over and as painful as it is going to be, it is about time. We need prices to get back in line with wages, and we need to return - I wonder if we really can - to a point where 80% of purchases are funded with cash instead of with a credit card.

The sad thing is that the make-believe part of our economy - the brokers, lawyers, billers, titlers, agents and so forth - are going to be hurt bad, and that means all of us since we all are either like them or depend on them for their business.

I don't have a lot of admiration for the Big 3 but we need to whip them back into shape. The next time we need to arm ourselves for conflict, we will be depending on our native manufacturing capability to save our skins. That means the Big 3, their suppliers, the suppliers to their suppliers, right down the line. No factory in Beijing is going to be producing wing tanks for us.

I greatly admire every US small-time manufacturer I see. It has got to be damn hard to keep it together. We need to get back to the point where the US produces things the rest of the world wants to buy from us, instead of a giant sell-it-to-me-again-Sam consumer.

Sorry for the rant but it burns me how the news media and so on get it all wrong. Since you can't explain it a sound bite, and since it goes against everything we have supposedly 'achieved' (like a totally disproportionate dependence on intangible services), the message gets diluted or hidden.

 

Plym49, our entire monetary system is make believe.

This isn't just a crisis of the credit system, it's a crisis of the Federal Reserve system. Until that changes, and we have some sound monetary policy, we will only see cycles of unsustainable highs followed by crashing lows.

I'm not trying to inject politics into this HAMB discussion, especially as I don't agree with most of the "answers" proposed in this video... But the first 3/4 of this video is a good crash course in how our economy actually works.

The entire system is a house of cards and any person blessed with minimal common sense will see how fragile it is and how it is bound to fall apart at some point.

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-9050474362583451279&hl=en

 

Plym49, you are sooo right! Ain't gonna happen, though, what's gone is gone. Yay to wing tanks Made in China!

 

The only thing that has ANY chance of turning things around is HUGE GOVERNMENT PUBLIC WORKS spending, even if the money is all borrowed. We need spending on par with Eisenhower or even FDR. The only way out is to SPEND SPEND SPEND over the next couple of years. And yes, we need to bail out Detroit too. Just peel off about 50 billion from that insane Wall Street "bail out."

When things are this dire, deficits do NOT matter. As far as I'm concerned even going a trillion in the hole next year would be better than "hunkering down." Jesus, NOBODY is spending money right now, even BANKS and that means the GOVERNMENT has to step in and SPEND SPEND SPEND.

--as you can probably guess, I am a classic "Liberal." And I'm RIGHT.

 

If I sell my kidney, will I be be able to grow a new one? :0

 

Wow; quite interesting.

 

You might want to read up on what the 1930s recession was really like before you make sweeping statements - this is not even close - just a minor depression compared with a hurricane.

 

...sure. It will grow back! Like a fingernail....

 

I'm sorry to say it but it looks like the next two years are going to be ruff for most of us,

Then the higher ups will be getting ready for their jobs to be cemented again in the following two years ,So their will be a great resurrection of our economic situation,

Things will look all bright and shiny but the true problem won't be fixed,

Try not to take advantage of others because it maybe you next!

Karma is a bitch, Always has been always will be................

 

From what I hear, you can sell cookies!
The last ones on the auction for the HAMB went pretty well.

 

Ghandi said, "Be the change that you want in this world".

Kris Kristofferson said that Ghandi knew his duty and the price he had to pay. "My God they killed him".

dka

 

Allan Songer

UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE!

 

I'm right.

And it's time to face the facts that Keynes was RIGHT, Milton Friedman was WRONG and get to the task of turning this ship around!

 

Deficits don't matter to who? Maybe not to you, but to our children and grandchildren who inherit a national debt that is unpayable, they will matter a great deal.

There has to be some pain from this crisis sooner or later. And the longer it is post-poned the worse it will be. Please note that I said "post-poned", not "prevented"... It can't be prevented. It's just not possible.

All your concept of even more uncontrolled government spending will do, is postpone the inevitable.

There will come a time, unless our government starts living within it's means, that the interest on our national debt alone will exceed our annual budget. At that point, we will no longer be able to service the debt and the federal government will be bankrupt. No matter how much money they print to flood the economy, the dollar will be worthless.

I say we take our lumps now. Go through the pain and LEARN FROM IT.

 

That's crazy talk! We've ALREADY sold our children's (and grandchidren's) future down the river by deciding that our economy is going to be based on all of us selling crap to each other.

There are MANY things worse than deficits--like shuttered stores and factories (what few we have left), 15% unemployment, DEflation. And THESE are the things we are headed for unless the government steps in YET AGAIN. Face it, massive government spending has ALWAYS bailed out the bust years that have followed EVERY boom brought on by massive speculation and unnecessary and unfair tax cuts for the wealthy. This is nothing new.

 

TP I know where you're coming from. Hang in there and remember you didn't get us in this mess but you and me and other like us have to suffer the bullshit that a bunch of greedy bastards created! "I'd like to spit some Beachnut in that dude's eye!"

 

So ,if nobody's spending money now, how is it that Walmart and McDonald's are making huge profits? Government is THE problem, not the solution. FDR's policies made the depression longer than it should have been,too.

 

Hogwash. FDR's only real mistake as far as the economy goes was in 1938 when he took some bad advice and lowered tax rates on the rich. Big mistake. He should have kept it at 90%. In fact, he raised back up to 90% when the war broke out--and it STAYED THERE until Kennedy lowered it to 70%. How do you think we built all of the infrastructure in this country between 1935-1970? HIGH TAXES and BIG GOVERNMENT SPENDING.

For the past 30 years all we get is the BIG GOVERMENT SPENDING (on all of the wrong stuff), without the necessary taxes.

Keynes was right.

 

I predict an early demise for this thread - no politics is a basic tenet of the HAMB.

 

Ditto

 

So maybe we should just send all our money to D.C. and let our congresscritters decide how to dole it out. I'm sure you can send more money to Washington if you wish.

 

ask yourself this one question...What has this topic got to do with Traditional Hot Rods and Customs...Not a dam thing!

or at least it has turned out that way

 

You're absolutely right! I'm done.

 

You're right. Maybe I'm all pissy becuase my body and paint guy told me today "won't be done until mid-January." Got to say, what he's done so far is bitch'n.