cowl steering without a schroeder steering box?

anyone running/building a car with push pull cowl steering with anything other than a schroeder race car steering box?how?

 

Just do a search for cowl steering there was a thread that used a mopar box? I think not to long ago

 

thanks

 

almost done using 90% info from guys on the H.A.M.B

 

Mid 30s GM pickup. There are pics in an old thread here.

 

got a mopar box for 40 bucks had all the stock laying around so far. having fun doing it from past articles

 

there are couple of us running BMW boxes also.....should be an easy search.

 

I'm just finishing putting a BMW box in my roadsted pu.I can get pix tomorrow if interested.

 

i made one using a corvair box

 

i use 67 to 79 f150 two wheel drive ford pickup boxes and reverse them they are long enough not to use an extension to reach outside the body on a model a.

 

Amen! I've done about 4 of these for guys around Indy and they work well-especially in '30-'32 cars. I've found the the Tri-Five Chevy box (almost the same internally) works well in '28-'29 and possibly in a '23-'25 T. I trim all the factory mounting lugs off the case and chuck it up in the lathe and turn the pitman shaft housing round over it's entire length.I makes a nice "racy" looking piece that way.

 

I'd like to see a picture or two of your BMW box. What years/models BMW do you start with?

 

I've seen it done with an early Ford Ranger manual box, I think there is a tech write up on it here.....

 

Wasn't there one with a Toyota pickup box too?

 

Scootermcrad has a nice Mopar box installed.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=315373
Another good one from Dreadman:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142985&showall=1

 

Here is a Mopar box on my Track T:

 

I was out scavanging thru the woods a week or so ago and found this box.





I'm thinking it would need reversing and as I didn't take it home I have no idea if the internals would even allow it.
The shaft drop is long and the box itself is compact.
What is it?
I'm thinking mid to late Dodge/Plymouth due to the ****tered body remains. There was no front suspension or much else...just the box on a piece of frame rail and I can't be sure the fractured body even belonged to these parts!
I'm thinking I might just go pull it out and see what its like internally.

 

That's an interesting looking box! Long snout and lay it on the side. I've been fiddling with some old Ford boxes but finally went the Vega box route - but I wasn't doing a cowl steer. Next time I would like the cowl steer approach so I'm looking at what could be used. Keep us posted on what ya find inside that box there.........................

 

I have to look that up. I don't particularly. like those boxes when they're OEM in the trucks...

 

Mopar box like some of the others posted.









And the here is another take entirely. 27 Ford Coupe and a 1953-1956 Ford F100 box that I lengthened the sector on.

 

I would suspect that when you got that box open all the water would pour out from the shaft being up in the air! Good luck with that, you'd be better off to pull a vega or corvair from a salvage.

 

Naaa...I have a Vega or two already.
I'd say your very likely to be right about the box being wasted...but it would be useful for measurement purposes and just to check to see how easily it could be reversed. (Not sure it even needs reversing as the suspension layout of this car is completely unknown to me!)

I'd LOVE to get a solid ID on the thing too!

Steering boxes are odd things though...I have a smoothly working F1 that was found and removed from an old ch***is in much the same visual condition!
But...yeah...that WAS a fluke I agree.
THIS one looks almost like a funnel!!!!

 

I had my car mocked up with a Gleaner combine box but went to swinging pedals and a vega box.The Gleaner box worked ok it had a long output shaft and turned nice and tight but I had to reverse it.Reversing it was easy about an hour of work.

 

Here is one on my champ car I made from a mid-50s Ford pickup truck, often referred to as a "Gemmer" box. I had to extend the shaft. An outboard bearing is planned.

 

OK...bringing this thread back to the top.

I went out and pulled that box I pictured home. Nice way to waste an hour on a brisk December afternoon! LOL
Anyway...box is locked solid...but I took it anyway for dis***embly. I want to see if its as easy to reverse as I think it will be.

On a 32 5W coupe with cowl steer...whats the golden measurement from the center of the lower column to the center of the pitman arm where it slips over the sector shaft?
I'd prefer a box that requires no extending at the sector shaft.

This box measures at exactly 11 3/8 inches. Center of lower column bearing to center of pitman arm spline.

A real good addition to a thread like this would be to add that measure for ANY box we find or use! Could help a load of people figure out just what box would be best for their project...

 

Would like some info on using a 56 f100 box for cowl steering,did a search a found little.

 

This thread came off the wayback machiine!

The box on my T was laying out like that and was fine inside. The fact someone pulled it sealed the deal for me!

 

Tri-5 Chevy boxes work & the 58'-early 60's ford p*** car manual boxes work for cowl steer. I've sold a few boxes for that application.

 

made this one a while ago but just learned how to post pics.

 

do you have any pics or model numbers for the gleaner combine box