well now that im driving the truck around these days... I feel like im riding in a over sized b*** drum.... lol albeit with some rattles and squeaks. What are you guys using to tone down the drone and empty tin can sound of the inside of your ol' rides. I hear a term lizard skin tossed around... and from my younger days that sound matte stuff for your stereo systems. dynomat?? what do you guys think will be the best for the 65 f100? Thanks for the input. jj
im not at that stage yet in my ride, but you might wanna check this out.. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177036 http://www.lobucrod.com/
i am using dynamat extreme, i went halves with a mate in 3 bulk packs wich we got a good deal on, i havent got the car on the road yet so i dont know how well it works but it holds on ok and isnt to hard to stick on using a heat gun and a roller i bought in a craft section of a hardware store.
I had a 94 Chevy 4 door pickup which I isolated with a blue kind of goo, it was like body isolation with something looking like sand in it, Rolled the floors three time and body panels, inside doors etc. Work like a charm, quietest car yet. Can't remember the name tough but as I recall it , it is frequently used by car stereo builders.
I recommend FatMat. It's cost effective and does a good job. It's not going make your car as quiet as a new Lexus, but it's just as good as the rest.
There was a post on here about making your own version of lizardskin. You'll have to search because it has been a while. I found this on google. http://www.ceramicadditive.com/work.html
I second this, it's what's in Big Olds http://www.lobucrod.com/ Plus he's a long-standing HAMB member and great guy and I believe in supporting the "little guy" in business when I can.
Just ordered a couple roll's from Mike as well.. Havn't gotten it yet, but knowing a few of the people that have, like Denise, i think i made the right choice.. He's a great guy to deal with too... Tony
I used Dynamat Xtreme. It works great and sticks really well. The tin can sound really goes away. If you tap on a wall that's been coated with Dynamat it just makes a faint quiet thud instead of "Boioioioioinnggaagaagaaaoooiiiigoooiing!!!". No more garbage can sounds. If you want to put in some of that stuff, get the roller tool. It's kind of hard to do a good job without that roller tool to roll out the bubbles and mash the wrinkles flat. On inside compound curves that the roller can't fit into, a big steel ball or a trailer hitch ball works well to mash out the wrinkles, or wad up a rag into a ball and push and scrub really hard. The adhesive on that stuff is butyl rubber, like they use for the tape they repair heater ducts with. It sticks like crazy. If you drop little s****s of it on the floor of your garage, you'll get that slop stuck all over your shoes and the floor permanently. It's really hard to s****e off again.
second skin has a product called luxoliner (or something like that). it's supposed to really nice stuff. i'm planning on doing my merc with 2 layers of second skin with a layer of luxoliner the jute and then carpet. i'd like to hear my radio.
so I got a sample of the stuff from lobucrod.... looks alot like the reflectix stuff.... whats the difference? I like dealing with companies like lobucrod... so if there isnt some miraculous diffence... I will likely order from him... I dont know much about insulation... but Im guessing the newer buble wrap looking stuff is better?
try your nearest AC supply They have the insulation for a better price, you will have to glue it on but that is a better process anyway. Jim
I used fatmat when I built the wayfarer and it's quiet and cool on a summer day. I doubled it up on the firewall and floor back under the front seat. Before there was carpet, a friend put his bare foot on the inside of the firewall after I'd been driving for four hours in 100 degree heat and it wasn't even barely warm. It does the job for alot less than dynamat. In my wagon that I'm buildng right now, I went with Lobucrod's stuff. It was inexpensive and turned out to be easy enough to put in. I doubled it up on the firewall and front floor as well. We'll see how well it works, since a '53 Chevy wagon is a big ond tin can.
On the list of sound absorbers is Ram audiomat. It's inexpensive. I have layers of it and then layers of the insulation that Denise recommends in mine. I don't feel that any one product does everything. This is in a 32 pickup. I also use the home made Lizardskin. I have it on the roof and floor. I have 4 layers on most areas.
i put dynamat in my vert fom end to end keeps me cool or warm whatever i want and my tunes sound great
I bought some RV sound deadner sheets from an RV salvage/surplus place, for 5 bucks a sheet. It sure looks like DynaMat, self adhesive, 3x3 sheets, foil backed, super dense. Don't know the the brand, but it sure was cheap!
I have a 54 dodge panel and that thing was a mind bending echo chamber until I made a trip to Lowes and bought some of the reflectix insulation material and some peel and seal material (this really helped the sheetmetal keep from vibrating)...after putting the peel and seal down in 6 inch wide stripes I applied the reflectix with some 3m adhesive...the difference is amazing...I cruise the panel with the lakepipes uncapped and can still listen to my favorite tunes and hold a conversation with a p***enger and on a hot day or a cold day the difference in temperature is amazing...did the whole interior of my panel for about 120 bux
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=13358-56291-13358&lpage=none http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=154017-81326-PS625 this stuff?
Ours is similar in appearance to reflectix. Reflectix is bubble wrap with foil on both sides. Ours is a closed cell polyethylene microfoam core with foil on both sides. Being of closed cell construction it will not absorb moisture and will not mold or mildew. Also if any of the tiny bubbles are popped they simply combine with the bubbles next to them retaining the intregrity of the closed cell construction. Bla bla bla, yadda yadda yadda
lol sounds good! literally.. I put your sample on a pan and tapped it... thud thud.. took it off. tinggg tinggg.. I was like dang. I didnt even attach it! just sat it on it. I got curious and stuck a lighter to it... the foil never changed but the middle sorta ... not sure melted would be the word.... the sandwich just got thinner.
Lizard skin has 2 formulas...one for noise, one for heat. They both do both, but are formulated to be stronger in one than the other. If budget weren't an issue, SPRAYING a nice coat of Lizard Skin on AND using some strategically placed Dynamat would be nice. So far that's the best combo I've experienced. Some of the other Dynamat like products have given us adhesion problems. We've had trouble gettting them to stick, particularly when installed on the roof before putting in the headliner. We had to use some serious glue in adition to the built in adhesive to get it to work. I called the techline and it seemed that they were already aware of the problem. Anyways....I'll stick with the name brand for now because I know it works.....it can sure be messy though.
I used the Home Depot and Lowes stuff on the old XK120 interior just to get the heat from the SBC from cooking me. Headers and pipes are directly under my wood floors..motor set so far back and uninsulated firewall so my toes would burn. Pipes under my seats would cook my ***. The HD and Lowes stuff made it drivable in Arizona.. After helping a friend with his 32 coupe (real) that used Lobucrods closed cell..and another 55 Chev truck SBC..it's what I'll be using when I tear into re-doing the old interior (25years) on the old Jag. Great stuff..excellent price..much better for extreme heat.. Also looks like it will not crush or heel tear like the HD stuff has under my pedals..from heel of shoes.
anyone ever done a before and after video .... after installing insulation? Ive got the gear...if that interest anyone I can do that quickly...lol and in HD too... Anyone got any pics of lobucs insulation installed in their rides? Ive been to his site... nice stuff... Wish I still had my Decibel meter.
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