Does anyone have, or know where to find, a drawing of the top of a Ford Flathead v8 block? I want to build a custom fuel injection intake and a drawing would be so much easier to start from then measuring a block or a gasket. I'm using an 8BA block, but any of the other models would be a great start. Have access to Autocad so I can read DWG or DXF and some other format drawings but nothing too fancy. If no-one has one, I'll measure a few of the blocks I have and try to come up with a decent average, draw it up and post it here. I found this old post on a SBC drawing: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116868&highlight=sbc+solidworks
I checked there, they only have exploded drawings of flatheads with partnumbers. I am looking for engineering drawings so I can make a custom intake manifold. This is the most detailed they get, hardly sufficient to come up with dimensions.
http://www.roadsters.com/ try here they have a ton of links,maybe you can find a link there or may be here http://idisk.mac.com/forever4/Public/index.htm other than that i am tapped out,hope these help
I think the only folks with this type of info are probably making intakes themselves and are reluctant to share...
hmm how about fire up autocad and draw one? start with a rubbing of the top of the block at the intake deck. go from there.
OK, off to the garage to go measure, I've got 4 or 5 intakes, 5 or so blocks and a couple of different sets of gaskets so I should be able to come up with a decent average on dimensions. When I've completed it I'll post a version here, if someone wants the CAD drawing let me know and I'll send it to you.
Yeah, I was trying to find bore center measurements online a few weeks ago and had very little luck. It would be cool if a bunch of guys did for the flathead what they did for the SBC a few months ago. (solidworks drawings of the block and all of the parts and whatnot)
That's exactly it. It takes a LOT of tine to do it, just to give it away. I will hand files off to friends when needed, but to someone who might undercut me later, nope. Even when I do find one online, I spend as much time checking it anyway. Nothing like making a run of parts only to find out the designer didn't have his morning coffee before designing it.
The Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn should be able tohelp you - they have many archived Ford drawings. They helped a friend with a similar request.
This is what I got done in a few hours, this is based on 2 blocks and 2 intakes that I had quick access to. First thing, the variations are HUGE, these are averages measurements. The intake bolts are .375" (3/8") the holes in the intake are .400" so they seem to be made to handle quite a bit of play. Especially the exhaust port locations seem to be highly variable, I guess precision doesn't matter here as it only requires some heat to move, no real "flow" is required, I probably won't spend a lot of time locating the exact location of those as I won't be using them for my fuel injection intake. If I have time I'll make a sheet steel test of this drawing tomorrow and update from there. The reason I'm sharing is that I am a strong believer in "what goes around comes around", keeping something simple like this that takes a few hours to complete a "secret" only to be handed out to people that know the secret handshake seems silly. Any comments, ideas, input, updates or improvements are very very welcome. The intake mirror from left to right (top to bottom in the drawing), the front of the engine is on the left in the drawing, but that shouldn't matter as it is a mirror image. The one item I did not draw (yet) is the draft tube location.
I have a raw aluminum casting of a fuel injection intake manifold for a V8-60, if anyone is interested. (8 indiviual runners like Hilborn Flathead V8) Tom
I had once ask around on the msn Flathead forum (they are now at http://flatheadv8.org/phpBB/) for cylinder head specs and a guy sent me a Ford blueprint / machinist diagram. I unfortunately don't have his name but you could try asking there. i should have asked for more but i wasn't thinking of building my own intake at the time. This thread peaked my interest. when I mapped it all out I checked the diagram to a gasket and it all looked good.
Tell you where you might find something. Crower, who used to build and sell those homemade intakes. Last one I saw a guy in the club just scribed the intake manifold gasket on a piece o 18" metal , drilled out the holes for the bolts and then drlled out the intakes and file them to shape. Then just welded 1 1/4" tubing into intake holes and started from there. Two carbs into parallel tubes,,then stubs into the ports. I drove his car at El Mirage using that manifold, 23 T, with Merc, and 127 miles an hour by the tach, and 118 by the clock. ! Must have been 1946 TraderJack Must have been 1946, and I can not remember his name!
Coupla things: First, Ford Archives can provede you with blueprints if you have the time to deal with their process...try Roy Nacewicz the bolt man for information, as he is a heavy researcher. You probably need complete early and late manifold prints (they search by part number) and possibly the sheet from the block prints showing top bolts. Second...the locater dowels! They were used only til '48, but serve to properly locate the manifold so that port matching can be done without fear of shifting. They are probably the original locater points for other machine work on original engines up there.
Here's a useless but inspirational bit of history picture: http://www.google.com/patents?id=z_...&as_miny_is=2008&as_maxm_is=1&as_maxy_is=2008 Real dimensional drawings will only exist in archives or in aftermarket manufacturers replicating Ford dimensions... but this pic represents the Ford/Bohnalite 1934 effort that created the modern 180 manifold. You might note some odd differences from production...Henry apparently backed down from a four-barrel original design! Carb shown is contemporary Lincoln Stromberg, somehow becoming a four barrel.
I have drawn billet heads for 8ba in solidworks i will try to made them they are not 100% ready yet can some on tell me what is the best spark plug localiton and consumtion chamber model
Hello! I am looking for a Cad file for the V8 manifold. did you finish this? I would like any more info if you would share it? I want to model the manifold in 3D (SolidWorks). Thanks! Jesse
This is why the HAMB keeps old threads. They always pop up at a later date with info or a question. No need for someone to ask why they are kept. Thanks to the HAMB.
There are some links below I found in a Google search. Peruse and contact. https://www.google.com/search?q=fla...ome..69i57.43214j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 This might help. https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-collections/search-results#terms=flathead drawings&years=0-0&perPage=10&pageNum=1&sortBy=relevance I bet this guy has drawings. Contact him or other model makers. https://modelengineeringwebsite.com/Ford_V8_FLATHEAD.html Here's good potential source. https://www.thehenryford.org/collec...-resources/popular-topics/ford-parts-drawings
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