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1955 mercury frame/ chassis swap ?????'s

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by IMPALAMAN1, Dec 9, 2008.

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  1. IMPALAMAN1
    Joined: Mar 23, 2007
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    hello Hambers. trying to do some research and having some trouble. im looking for frame charts/ ch***is diagrams... dimensions for a 1955 Mercury Monterey 4door. Im looking to swap a newer frame under it and want to make sure that it isnt completely out of the question for the frame im looking at.

    any links will help just need an push in the right direction and ill dig .. thanks for the help.
     
  2. IMPALAMAN1
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    Ok i have some info can you all back check me

    wheelbase 118-122in ? im alittle stuck seems that 54 and56 are the ones im finding.

    track width front 59.0"
    track width rear 59.5"

    im looking at a 2005 crown vic police car to swap ch***is's but i think that the crown vic track is way too wide.

    can anyone confirm the track width and wheelbase.
     
  3. Sounds like a lot of work for an old 4-door you can probably bolt a 9-inch right on the stock springs and do a clip or a kit to change the front end if it's that bad.

    Track is probably close, same with wheelbase, I'd have to get out a book to check.
     
  4. the b.c.b.
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    The '54 I'm doing has 118 on the wheel base. I'll check the book I have for it (also covers 55)
     
  5. IMPALAMAN1
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    THANKS FELLAS...

    it is my great grandpas old car.... it isnt in bad condition but was looking to get a little more modern times under her....
     
  6. dabirdguy
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    I have a '55 Merc Wagon.
    The guys here talked me outof doing a swap.
    I have landed a Power Steering unit for my 292 and will be upgrading the stock front end with some after market goodies.
     
  7. IMPALAMAN1
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    NICE...
    if it is that much touble... then i could just keep it and have a little fun with the original suspension. was looking for a quick swap but it seams that in my searches it is more of a headache that it would be to rebuild the 292 and roll with it.
     
  8. atomickustom
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    There are some in-between options. You can upgrade the brakes and drop in a newer motor. Adding disk brakes makes a big difference. Gas shocks and a bigger front swar bar helps a lot, too. Personally I'd only swap the ch***is if the current one is totally shot.
    Drop in a running motor and take it for a drive. If it's okay, then you're set. (But remember what I said about shock absorbers - a new set of good ones makes a HUGE difference!)
     
  9. IMPALAMAN1
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    THANKS FELLAS... Researching my options.
     
  10. markin59
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    My wifes car is an 08 Mercury Gran Marquis..... outside to outside of 255/60 r 16 is 76", center of front wheel to center of back is 117".
     
  11. mercury 50
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    anyone put a 96 impala frame under a 50 2dr merc just wanna know what i might b getn into thanks
     
  12. Mr48chev
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    There are only a few really good reasons for doing a frame swap. Just because all the "cool guys" seem to be doing it isn't one of them.

    1. No frame or not enough frame to begin with.
    2. Frame rusted, wreck damaged or hacked beyond reasonable repair.
    3. Car is an orphan and there are no ch***is parts available at any even close to reasonable price.
    4. Parts are available but the sellers thing they are made out of solid gold and the cost of rebuilding the ch***is would be prohibitive. Add to that no aftermarket support for custom pieces outside of hauling it to Phoenix and groveling at Steve's feet to have him build special pieces.
     
  13. 1964countrysedan
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    Get on the road, drive it 2000 miles with its current frame, then report back. My buddy has a 55 Mercury BONE STOCK and it drives like... well... like no other old car I have driven. Great steering, suspension, braking etc...
     
  14. Insane 1
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    Too much work for not enough gain...you can work with the original by adding upgrades and be way better off in the long run.
     
  15. Of course, the new guy bumps this ancient thread that has nothing to do with his question to ask about a '50 Merc swap.

    The '49-'51 Merc swap has been done dozens of times, usually with a 77-85-ish Buick or Olds ch***is with a 119" or so wheelbase, there's one that's just about right on. But since they were rot prone and are now 30 years old themselves, they've become much less easy to come by. So far as I know, GM used essentially the same underframe for the 92-96 RWD cars, the wheelbase may need to be altered but it should fit. Be aware normally when they do this swap, they swap over the entire floorpan with the frame - if you have a nice, solid car you're going to ruin it.

    Most late model car frames starting in the mid-1960s are perimter frames that have the side rails running under the rocker panel area, they get wider at the cowl and stay wide through the rear suspension mounts. Most 1964 or so and older frames do not do this, they may get a little wider but with a few exceptions they do not come out under the rocker panels. This makes frame swaps difficult at best on about 95% of old cars.

    Further, if you've never done one before and barely have worked on an old car, this is not a swap for you - it requires a lot of space, a lot of time, a lot of welding, some ability to engineer things on the fly, and nine times out of ten it is much more work and in the end more expensive than if you'd kept the stock frame and upgraded it - even if you clipped the frame with a front section from another vehicle.
     
  16. 1964countrysedan
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    Fng got me

    Note to self... Ignore fng frame swap threads
     
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