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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 'Flyin' Dutchman', Aug 16, 2004.

  1. A collegue of mine did me an offer to sell me one of his TIG welding machines. He has a welding shop next to his normal day job.
    It's an industrial machine with lots of options. I don't know the brand yet, forgot to ask... Stupid. Will ask tomorrow.
    But it's AC/DC, high frequency, water cooled, includes
    torch & hoses, bottle, etc. etc...

    He's asking about $1150,-... Looks like a pretty good deal to me if it's a good brand.
    I don't know too much about TIG welding and can weld a little bit with a TIG torch, but was planning on learning more about it anyways.

    I was thinking that, maybe this machine would be too advanced for me, but, you're never too old to learn new techniques, right?

    Does anyone have any tips?

    What should I keep in mind?

    What should I look at specifically?
     
  2. that is a good price if it isnt to old of a machine, a new miller econo tig witch is what i first bought cost a round $1350 with no bottle
     
  3. On that same topic, would anyone out there know if/where anyone is selling any reasonably-priced used welders? reconditioned is okay, as long as it's pulling a good bead.
     
  4. scrapmetalart
    Joined: Mar 29, 2004
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    from DAYTON

    I have a 300 amp lincoln that is about 15 years old with new torch, cooler, & pedal that I'm trying to sell for $2350. A new lincoln 185 is about $1600 so I think that price is good. The 185 is not even water cooled! You need to get some more info like brand & amperage to determine for sure.
     
  5. Slide
    Joined: May 11, 2004
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    As far as that machine being too advanced, I'd rather learn on a decent machine than a ****py one. Most of my TIG time has been spent on a Miller SyncroWave 250, which is a really nice rig. If that price includes the bottle and torches and everything, that doesn't sound too bad... if it's a Miller or Lincoln... and decent power.

    Would your colleague be willing to help you get started understanding the welder a little?
     
  6. 30roadster
    Joined: Aug 19, 2003
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    I know this isn't really what you were looking for but i found it answered alot of questions i had.....being TIG ignorant.... tig guide
     
  7. metalshapes
    Joined: Nov 18, 2002
    Posts: 11,130

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    Try and get in touch with Sidusa.
    They build their own Mig Welders and they are in the Soest/ Zeist area...
    I heard the owner died a couple of years ago, but his right hand man kept the place going.
    Very nice people and they know about welders.
    I am not sure they make a Tig, but they should be able to tell you if the one you are looking at is a good brand.
    Tell them Alex said Hi...( They might remember me..)
    I had 2 mig welders that were made by them ( the 1st one got stolen ), and a lot of my friends had one too.
    They were extremely good machines, but I had to leave mine behind ( different Voltage and Frequency here...)
    Other than that, make sure the Machine you are looking at has a HF, and water cooling.
    Personally I would rather have a old industrial Machine than a newer economy one...
    Good luck...
     
  8. HotRodMicky
    Joined: Oct 14, 2001
    Posts: 1,793

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    Hi Maurice,
    I would buy the AC/DC Tig-Welder.
    I have a DC MAchine, so i could weld anything execpt Aluminium. Big loss for me.
    I can show you how to weld TIG.
    I live an hour(east) from Enschede. You are welcome any time.
    TIG a thousend times better than MIG.
    Bye
    Michael
     
  9. Haven't been looking at the machine yet, but heard it's about 5 - 6 years old... Is that too old maybe..? Don't think so huh?

    It's a MIGATRONIC MTE 220... Migatronic is a company from Danmark. Anyone of you heard from them?

    If some of you experienced guys can tell me if it's not too old, I'll probably go for it..
    We have to modify the electricity system a little, but my friend who's an electricien can easily help us out with that.

    FD
     
  10. Canadas lowest
    Joined: Aug 19, 2004
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    Canadas lowest
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    I've been meaning took look at one . it's a miller maxstar 140str it comes with the cart, tig torch and regulator. the guy is asking $850 canadian, is that a good price? I've used other people tigs and never really paid attention to what they were... mostly big miller ones.
     
  11. HRH
    Joined: May 2, 2002
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    The price doesn't seem all that bad for a complete set-up. Water-cooled makes it at least a 250 amp machine. GTAW welds are only as good as the set up (machine settings). I guess the best tip would be to try to find yourself Gas Tungston Arc Welding Handbook by William H. Minnick. Look on line to see if you can find this book and then read it front to back. As far as set-up I would see if there is a manual that comes with the unit, if not try obtaining one through the manufacturer, These manuals all obtain vital info on the machines. Set-up and settings are all pretty universal, When you get the machine, I could tell you where to set the operator controls as well as any other moduals control boxes, etc <font color="brown"> </font>
     

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