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DuPont "Hot Rod Black" it was only a matter of time

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Brickster, Aug 19, 2004.

  1. Brickster
    Joined: Nov 23, 2003
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    I'm sure we all saw it coming. But for those who couldn't grasp the concept of running a car in primer or putting a flattening agent in some single stage DuPont has taken all the guess work out of the equation. I just figured it would have been called "Rat Rod Black". The good news is that it is not suppose to chalk up like DP90 does. A good friend gave this sample to me and I'm going to try it out on the engine compartment of a muscle car I'm building for my Dad. I'll let you know how it works.
     

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  2. kustumizer
    Joined: Nov 22, 2003
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    from Alton,NH

    how much does that stuff run per gallon?
     
  3. Brickster
    Joined: Nov 23, 2003
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    I have no idea, the quart was given to me. Try a autobody suppy that carries DuPont
     
  4. G V Gordon
    Joined: Oct 29, 2002
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    from Enid OK

    I can actually remember black primer in a spray can in the 60's being called hot rod black or maybe hot rod primer, not sure which. It was when I was in high school.
     
  5. slammed
    Joined: Jun 10, 2004
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    Cool! And it's got flame's on the label, too! The NAME of the stuff....I think "Roach Rod" can be a usefull alternative for the shop worn original.
     
  6. OGNC
    Joined: May 13, 2003
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    We just used some on a 56 F-100 project we're doing for the mag. Painted the inside of the truck gloss black & orange and did the outside Hor Rod Black. The thing looks killer! It is like a semi-gloss and flows out perfectly. Good stuff for sure!
     
  7. lurch13
    Joined: Apr 29, 2002
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    sikkins has also got one out called rally black had it on my car for over 5 years with out faddind and matches perfect if u have to do a repair...
     
  8. OGNC
    Joined: May 13, 2003
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    Man, Lurch the lurker is in the house! Look out.
     
  9. 5SPOKE
    Joined: Oct 24, 2002
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    Hey guys....try this one....... TRIM BLACK by SEM....it has the perfect hue, is self leveling, mixes with laquer thinner......don't get none easier, I used it on my 60 F100 that I am despertly trying to sell and I will use it again on my '73 Chevy...

    -SAM
     
  10. duplicolor makes a rattle can primer named hot rod primer,i used it to primer my 50
     
  11. av8
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
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    [ QUOTE ]
    . . . for those who couldn't grasp the concept of running a car in primer . . .

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    Some of us -- just about everyone I knew -- grasped that you ran your car in primer only so long as you weren't ready for shiny paint, which was almost invariably nitrocellulose lacquer.

    This new DuPont primer-like finish has more to do with the revisionist view of the way things were in the Day than it does with the way things actually were. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Primer wasn't the goal -- It was a step along the way.

    That this new finish doesn't chalk says a lot about now vs. then. In the Day, primer was reshot before it chalked; if you still had to do some time in primer before you got to shiny, you didn't let it go to hell, you re-primed it fer chrissake!

    There's nothing wrong with running your car in primer forever if that's what pleases you, but don't confuse that with the way things really were long ago. Shiny was the goal!



     
  12. RocketDaemon
    Joined: Jul 4, 2001
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    from Sweden

    and shiny is the goal for all my cars when they are ready enough ...
     
  13. Slag Kustom
    Joined: May 10, 2004
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    sikkens rally black has been around for 10 years if not more. great product for doing flat hoods like a mach one or amx sem stuff is decent too but it still is a junk laquer product.
     
  14. JamesG
    Joined: Nov 5, 2003
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    John Deer Blitz Black is MUCH cheaper........

     

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  15. Barn-core
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    Hey, Brick, what's up. The rattle can primer I buy from Orchard Supply Hardware is called hot rod black. As far as shooting your whole car with trim black that's fine if that's the look you want, but forget painting your car later, it's like putting a coat of plastic over the whole car.
     
  16. 57wagon
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    [ QUOTE ]
    John Deer Blitz Black is MUCH cheaper........



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    Yep, $9 per quart around here in Wisconsin... That's what I used on my wagon.. Seems to scratch pretty easy around the door handles and stuff though.. But for $9 it was a quick way to get it on the road this summer.....

    Besides it was the first time I tried to paint a car, and this needed no mixing other than the reducer...

    Turned out pretty good for a first timer [​IMG]

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    I had PLENTY of help with the purple flake top and flames.. Lots more mixing [​IMG]

    But now I have the hang of it!! Gotta learn somehow! I left one of the drips on the flames, just for the heck of it!!!
     
  17. magnet
    Joined: Jul 15, 2002
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    nice 4x4 wagon ... :)
     
  18. SAVAGE
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    I bet that will work good. I have used one by Standox called Ralley Black . It is good for flat Black GM bumpers or Rat Rods. Its probably the same stuff labeled different.

    I didn't know you were building a Muscle car for your Daddy Chip Foose (brick)? Can you get some spy pix of it when you shoot it?

    Thanks
     
  19. MonsterMaker
    Joined: Aug 11, 2004
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    [ QUOTE ]
    John Deer Blitz Black is MUCH cheaper........



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    Agreed!!! [​IMG] [​IMG]
     

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  20. Django
    Joined: Nov 15, 2002
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    It's nothing new as far as marketing. I have a pint of paint from the early 60s that's called hot rod primer.
     
  21. JamesG
    Joined: Nov 5, 2003
    Posts: 5,249

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    [ QUOTE ]
    It's nothing new as far as marketing. I have a pint of paint from the early 60s that's called hot rod primer.

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    So will it only stick to a hot rod? [​IMG]
     
  22. 57wagon
    Joined: Apr 7, 2004
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    [ QUOTE ]
    nice 4x4 wagon ... :)

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    [​IMG] Keep 'em tall baby!!!!! More ground clearance for those corn fields up north here!!!
     
  23. [ QUOTE ]
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    . . . for those who couldn't grasp the concept of running a car in primer . . .

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Some of us -- just about everyone I knew -- grasped that you ran your car in primer only so long as you weren't ready for shiny paint, which was almost invariably nitrocellulose lacquer.

    This new DuPont primer-like finish has more to do with the revisionist view of the way things were in the Day than it does with the way things actually were. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Primer wasn't the goal -- It was a step along the way.

    That this new finish doesn't chalk says a lot about now vs. then. In the Day, primer was reshot before it chalked; if you still had to do some time in primer before you got to shiny, you didn't let it go to hell, you re-primed it fer chrissake!

    There's nothing wrong with running your car in primer forever if that's what pleases you, but don't confuse that with the way things really were long ago. Shiny was the goal!





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    And I thought that I was the only one who remembered it that way. Thanks bro.

    The thing that Kills me is a total drop dead slap me in the face custom runnin' around in primer and considered finished. We ran primer because we had spent every last cent makeing it go fast and were waiting for the cash for some flash. [​IMG]

    Not that flat paint is a bad thing, ya run 'em the way ya want 'em.
     
  24. Jaker
    Joined: Jan 23, 2003
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    that dupont stuff works pretty well. It's too pricey when compared to John Deere paint, but if you only need a little bit (like my motorsickle) I strongly recommend it.
     

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  25. [ QUOTE ]
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    . . . for those who couldn't grasp the concept of running a car in primer . . .

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Some of us -- just about everyone I knew -- grasped that you ran your car in primer only so long as you weren't ready for shiny paint, which was almost invariably nitrocellulose lacquer.

    This new DuPont primer-like finish has more to do with the revisionist view of the way things were in the Day than it does with the way things actually were. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Primer wasn't the goal -- It was a step along the way.

    That this new finish doesn't chalk says a lot about now vs. then. In the Day, primer was reshot before it chalked; if you still had to do some time in primer before you got to shiny, you didn't let it go to hell, you re-primed it fer chrissake!

    There's nothing wrong with running your car in primer forever if that's what pleases you, but don't confuse that with the way things really were long ago. Shiny was the goal!





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    Gloss black RULES :grin
     
  26. Grumpy
    Joined: Jan 28, 2003
    Posts: 2,570

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    from NE Ohio

    I've had "done" shiney cars, but at this stage in my life, with a 11 & 8 yr. olds running around, I just have more fun in a primered car.

    I don't have to be so **** about the kids and their friends around it. I spend 1/10th the time keeping it clean, and I just drive the **** outta it without much worries.

    I may go shiney again when they're alittle older, but for now...

    Primer is finer [​IMG]

    BTW, if I sell the 48 and buy the car I want, it may be a pretty shade of rust for the next year!!
    Shhhh! It's a secret [​IMG]
     
  27. 53_210
    Joined: Sep 24, 2003
    Posts: 219

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    I've got that SEM trim stuff on my car and it sure stays black, but it sure scratches off easily. And now the back half is faded primer. I can't wait to paint the whole car again. Shiny as can be.
     
  28. lownslow
    Joined: Jul 16, 2002
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    well ya had better get ALL of that trim black **** off it first.....you can't paint over ANY existing paint........just so ya know.......i have seen people try . it won't work......

    i may actually try that dupont stuff....i have a job coming in that would work well on........thanks for the post...
     
  29. lilbill
    Joined: Mar 6, 2003
    Posts: 319

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    from arkansas

    [ QUOTE ]
    John Deer Blitz Black is MUCH cheaper........



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    i heard that there was a problem painting over blitz black. something about other paints reacting or not sticking to the blitz. ??????
     
  30. SwitchBlade327
    Joined: Dec 15, 2002
    Posts: 2,911

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    anyone know the price on that stuff? if might work good on some parts of the truck I'm workin' on. I"m definately NOT using blitz black.
     

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