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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by BISHOP, Jan 27, 2009.

  1. BISHOP
    Joined: Jul 16, 2006
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    Well I'm getting closer to finishing my 1933 ford pickup, and I still don't have a ***le, just an out of state bill of sale.
    So I go to the local department of transportation and ask their opinion of what I should do, seeing Ive built a truck from a number of different trucks, no Vin # anywhere.
    Here is what I was told: As long as I have a bill of sale for what I purchased- a roller, then I'm good. I was also told to go ahead and finish the truck, Get it ready for an inspection. They would have a DOT guy inspect the truck, when it p***es inspection, I would be ***igned a Vin #, then a ***le.

    So who has applied for a ***le this way, and what road blocks should I expect. It sounded like no big deal coming from the DOT. Or should I just buy a ***le for a 1933 ford pickup. It seems like those can get you in some trouble by whats been said in other posts.



    Damit, I spelt "With" wrong. ****
     
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  2. Abomb
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    If it's anything like Kansas, if the State issues you a VIN, it will be ***led as a 2009 specially constructed vehicle. Good luck.......
     
  3. BISHOP
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    Will it have to p*** 2009 new car inspection then? As far as being ***led a 2009, that dont bother me too much, its obviously not a fibergl*** copy. But I really want to run my 1933 texas plates.
     
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  4. To bad you're not in IL. Rodd-o-Blago lets us ***le them as the year and make they most closely resemble. Hope it dosen't go by the wayside when he does.
     
  5. I would also ask your DOT if the vehicle would be registered as a 2009, or as a 1933 truck...just to be sure. If they tell you "2009", then it's your call...
     
  6. tommy
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    I know that there is a 1967 steel Ford model A coupe running around somewhere in Maryland. Reconstructed ***les are not new, not desirable IMO, but not new.
     
  7. flathead6
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    I have not done this with a car, but I have with 2 motorcycles here in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com[​IMG]Texas</ST1:p</st1:State>. One started as an 85 Nighthawk, the other as a 71 VW bug. The state will ***le them as a new vehicle. Mine are 2005 and 2004 ***embled vehicles. The Nighthawk is now a hard tail chopper and the VW is a trike. Motorcycles don’t have all the safety issues that a car does. It was easy and the only problem I have had is it is almost impossible to insure them with anything other than liability insurance.

    I looked into doing a T-bucket this way. TxDOT told me that it would have to meet current safety requirements. It would be ***led to the year that the ***le was ***igned. You will not be able to run the 1933 plates if you go this route. You could tag it as a specialty vehicle and drive it in parades but it would not be a daily driver unless it meets current safety requirements. TxDot will give you all of this info.
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    Personally I would use a 1933 ***le. Go through a ***le service, buy a 1933 ford truck ***le at a swap meet, or look into a bonded ***le. I have gone that route also.
     
  8. flathead6
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    Forgot to add that all I had were Bill of Sales on the 2 motorcycles and all of the parts needed to build them.
     
  9. Goztrider
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    from Tulsa, OK

    I know Oklahoma is supposed to have a law that allows you to ***le it as the year it most closely resembles. Such as a 33, with a vin history that only begins in 2009.
     
  10. JDHolmes
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    from Spring TX

    Note that I'm not positive on this so you should check, but if they ***ign a VIN to it, I THINK you may have to p*** the current inspection laws for new cars. I see you're from east TX so I don't know what that means, but in big cities, that means smog equipment.

    At minimum, I think it would have to have smog equipment (but not p*** smog tests) if you get a new VIN ***igned. Again, thinking out loud, not positive (hope I'm wrong for your sake)
     
  11. mj40's
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    You described the system DMV uses in Idaho. If you have visible numbers be sure and run them through the DMV first to see if there are any problems there. Idaho ***les theirs as the year the car represents. They didn't use to but due to a state lobbying organization, USRI got it changed years ago. If you have a state lobbying organization that deals in antique, cl***ic or street rods, contact them and they should be able to help you out. Idaho has had one since 1979.
     
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  12. Johnny1290
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    Man I think you're cruising for trouble to have that as a 2009 anything. PMing you now.
     
  13. djust
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    from Oklahoma

    When I checked into this a year or so ago in Oklahoma they told me that if I built the car with no ***le I could come down and ***le it as new custom vehicle and get a ***le.
    Sounds great except that they also wanted all the receipts for everything I bought new or used parts wise that I needed to finish it with to make sure nothing came off stolen vehicles (Here's the kicker). They would total up all the receipts and charge me excise tax on the vehicle just like I bought it off the showroom floor.

    I went the other route and got an original ***le for it.
     
  14. BISHOP
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    Thanks for the advice everyone. I knew it sounded to good coming from the DOT. I do not want to go that route.
     
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  15. pasadenahotrod
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    It isn't bad information or "too good" from TXDOT, it is the procedure.
    Go to a ***le company and explain your situation and they will get you fixed up the right way for not too much money. They do it every day.
     
  16. BISHOP
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    Just out of curiousity, how many numbers are in a 1933 vin?
     
  17. BISHOP
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    I know it has a star before or after the numbers, but how many numbers. Anyway, I'M going to go through a ***le company. Ive had some good advice on how that works, seems to be the best route. Thanks everyone who helped lead me in the right direction. Really, THANKS ALOT, I appreciate the help. BISHOP
     
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  18. hunter1111
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    I Used this method and wish i hadnt. I have a 34 ford pickup that i didnt have a ***le for so i went through "lawrence ***le" in taylor tx. They were helpful but the jack*** at the DOT that inspected my truck said he wasnt positive it was a 34 ford since there werent any numbers anywhere on the body and it wasnt on the original frame, he would have to ***ign it as an "***embled vehicle". I ended up getting a ***le but it says 2008 ***embled vehicle with 34 ford written under it.

    As far as if i need inspection im sure i do but there is no way it will p*** so im just going to drive it and play dumb if i ever get pulled over. DAMN D.O.T!!!
     
  19. Dan1955
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    My Model A is ***led as a 1930. It was ***led as a builder and because the body is a 30 that is what it is. In Oklahoma receipts are required and also an inspection by the OHP.
     

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