Vintage hood scoop for a model T/A?

Gang,
I'm thinking of a hood scoop for my Phantom pickup project. Anything come to mind for a late 50's early 60's scoop? Short enough and not too tall for a T or A hood? Prefer something lakes, road or oval racing style, rather than g***er / drags.
Also considering similar / matching scoop on hood side(s) for oil coolers, vents, etc.
Sources? Photos? Ideas? Thanx in advance, as they say. Gary

 

BTT... no one? Nothing? What, no scoops - just a hole in the hood? Gary

 

Don't run a hood ......

 

Well, that's the easiest approach! But I really want a hood and sides. Thanx, Gary

 

Fab something up that would look like injector stacks sticking out of the top ......that would be cool......

 

How about an 55-57 T-bird style scoop or a factory Ford truck scoop. The 53 or 56 -66 Ford Big Job ( F600-F800 ) trucks had a cool looking scoop. The big job scoop might not be real easy to find but it would look cool on your truck.

Here's a few shots of the big truck scoop. It's not a huge scoop but I think it looks cool.

 

Something to think about. Are they available at reasonable costs? I'd prefer the big truck style. Right now, it looks like I'll have to have a custom hood with a few bumps in it to get around stuff that won't clear and so I hope my hood guy will be able to add a riveted on scoop in the process. I think one hood side will also need a scoop (or a "thru" faring of some sort) for a vertically mounted oil cooler.

Thanx guys, Gary

 

dude you read my mind on the big truck scoops thats exactly what i was thinking !saw one acouple years ago on a car and couldn't quite place it but it looked cool !

 

Don't know if this fits or not but may give ya some ideas
Pontiac Slim

 

Pontiac used the Ford truck scoop on some of it's early 60's factory drag cars. Not one "like" it but actual Ford pieces.

 

Interesting... my Ford truck will have a Pontiac engine. Cool. Gary

 

There ya' go.

 

Bingo Thats the one I was thinking of... Its even repoed now for the pontiac crowd......If you find a reall one watch out the hornets REALLY like them

 

Any idea which cars? SD 421, etc? I've started searches for both vintage Ford trucks and Pontiacs with no luck so far. If anyone is a Pontiac fan and knows of a link to them, please let me know. Gary

 

I think they were only used on the factory drag cars, not the "production" super dutys or light-weight cars.
I think the same scoops were also used on Ford-cabbed school buses, that is where I found mine.
Mark

 

The story I heard is that Arnie Beswick wanted the scoop for his early '60s Pontiac Super Stocks, and talked Pontiac into buying those big truck scoops from Ford, giving them a Pontiac part number and stocking them as an over-the-counter part, which made it legal to run in NHRA.

They turn up on ebay every now and then... I'm thinking the last couple I saw went in the $180 range. I found one in a junk yard last summer for $10.
They screw to the hood. There's a flange on the underside of the scoop, with 1/4-20 studs spot welded to the flange that go through the hood. Most of them broke off when I unbolted it from the truck.

I saw one on an early '60s Ford car I did a feature shoot on several years ago, and saw another on a '55 Chevy wagon I also shot a few years later. Both guys said they remember them from their youth and had to have it on their car. Since then, I've seen vintage pics of old g***ers and drag cars with them.

-Brad

 

That was what I remember too and as someone else stated they were only on the factory drag cars never on a production line model. I remember them on fire trucks, cement mixers, school buses, etc. Heck my 50's Tonka Ford Tow Truck even has one!

 

I found a couple on ebay today in pretty poor shape. While I think it might be too wide, I'm checking on dimensions. Gary

 

If the truck scoop isn't what you want, another one to consider might be the Cal Custom aluminum scoop. They pop up on ebay quite often.

 

I like it! Is this one yours? Would you happen to know the height, length, width? Thanx, Gary

 

Nope not mine, Just one I found on Ebay. I pm'd you a link.

 

This just in... The Cal Custom scoop is approx... It is 14 inches long, 10 inches wide at the front and tapers down to 8 inches at the back, and the opening at the front is 2.75 inches tall

 

Just don't do like the Model A hood I picked up on a town junk day years ago. It had been cut in the middle in a rectangle shape, the edges bent 90' into flanges, and a crude sheetmetal scoop added, pop-rivited on and bondoed over before they slapped some metallic blue paint on it. I was 12 I think when I picked it up and still knew it was a ****ty job.

By the way, that panel below the grille on those big Ford trucks with the three round holes looks like it could be useful, maybe as a custom dash or something -

 

Do a search and find a photo of the inlet scoop on the Tony Nancy dragster.

Get or make a speed bump similar to what SoCal sells.

Cut the front end of the speed bump open similar to the Nancy scoop.

If you're gonna weld it on and mold it, a peak down the scoop would be a nice touch.


Go to a restaurant supply store and look at the stainless steel pots, pans and steam table stainless containers.

There are some shaped in such a way that a little imagination would get you a scoop like no one else has.

Hubcaps too....

 

Interesting ideas... filed. Perhaps I could do the fry pan backing plates, too, like the guy in another recent HAMB thread!!! LOL, but still a nifty idea.

Gary

 

Gang,
Digging up an old thread... as you can see in the pix, we have pretty much decided on a 3" x 180 deg. bend to relocate the throttle body on the truck. Too bad they don't make a blower with top mounting injectors / dual TB for this rig, eh? So we are going to see what happens with this idea. The visibility is still good and I don't think a scoop an inch higher than the TB will distract much. Horizontal visibilty on the chopped roof is still excellent!

BTW, we tried resting the TB on a just a 90 degree bend for fun. It was SO COOL looking, like a big fat 97 sticking stright up. It would have looked great with a big sugar scoop / angle cut pipe on top. But it would also fill up with water pretty fast so we discounted it.

We are still taking suggestions for a vintage 50/60's perhaps 70s style drag racing (or road racers, sports cars, lakes racers, whatever) style hood scoop. While I really like the Cal Custom design mentioned above, I'd rather build something on the hood than have the hood cut out for a scoop. We might even get one of the Cal Custom scoops to re cast in gl*** and then rivet to the hood. Or not.

So far, our plan will incorporate a cone shapped K&N filter sticking out horizontally / forward on the TB and an L or U-shaped metal plate similar to contemporary air box deals - which seal off cold air filters from the inner fenders or core supports on new vehicles. This plate / box would seal the air filter to the bottom of the scoop and hood, helping to block engine heat. We also plan to wrap the 180 intake tube and the cross-over exhaust pipe that will run up over the bell housing to keep things as cool as possible.

Taking any and all ideas... every thing but modern pro stock scoops are in the running. Photos of old cars / scoops most welcome! Thanx, Gary

Also... some sketches / pix from last year build notes - with ideas I liked... long bed, short hood, not too low, but a chop...

 

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=300224

 

how 'bout one of these?

 

Thunderbird. '56/7 or 58/9.

 

Treb and monsterflake... same scoop, eh? the surfer style? Might be too
"fast" looking for vintage slammer but I'm keeping an open mind about all the potential designs. Thanx, Gary