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40's ford p/u vin help

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by muttafokker, Feb 2, 2009.

  1. muttafokker
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    looking to register my p/u but not really sure what year it is.going to dmv with a vin tracing soon to try and get a title. vin starts with 99t and 6 digits following.same numbers on the flathead that was in it. i have gone so far as calling ford motor co and they sent me a packet of photocopies outta some ford pickup history book.no help.any info would be appreciated.
     
  2. Bruce Lancaster
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    Is the tracing from frame?? 99 indicates 239 engine. T would normally denote big truck, not pickup, which was a commercial. Year will shake out from the sequential number. This lists the years it could be: http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/flathead_serialnumbers.htm

    The 99 numbers are marked as Merc, not the full story as 239's went into some prewar trucks and all postwar V8's
     
  3. muttafokker
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    i bought a commercial truck for the doors hinges and some misc. stuff .since i didnt have a vin i cut the numbers out of the left frame rail with a torch.couldnt find any other id on the truck.dmv says they can find only two other vehicles registered in ny state with similar vins.
     
  4. Bruce Lancaster
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    What year does it decode to?? I think a prewar truck would be like 99T-xxxxx, while a postwar would add in a year component like 699T-xxxx for 1946. The 99 followed by a serial in that series would be basically correct for any 239 powered Fomoco vehicle made from 1939-47 or 8. The serial part would be drawn from same set of sequential number regardless of whether truck, Merc, or 239 Ford. You have a valid prefix and presumably a sequence number falling somewhere between 1939 and 1947...
     
  5. muttafokker
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    its 135696 any idea where that falls?
     
  6. MN Falcon
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    Does the truck have the rating plate on the inside of the glove box? If so there will be another hint there.

    The "T" is a 1.5 Ton and were made through the war. I don't know if they were designated as the 99T through the whole war though. I have seen somewhere though that they did use that designation in '44. They did make the 1.5 ton through '47. The only numbers I have seen for '46 and '47 though had the "year" number before the 99T. So the '46 would be 699T and the '47 would be 799T. But I have heard that this might have been different from plant to plant. The six digits past the T though mean that it is no later than '46. So it is likely a '44-'46 based on the info that you have given.
     
  7. muttafokker
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    same numbers stamped on the motor as well. i searched the whole truck looking for any identifying numbers and all i found was the frame numbers and motor numbers.
     
  8. MN Falcon
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    Sorry you and Bruce got some in before I hit enter. Looking at the 6 digits it looks like it would be a '40.
     
  9. muttafokker
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    where did you locate that info? from the vanpelt site?
     
  10. Bruce Lancaster
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    Yes, 40. And it is presumably bigger than a 1/2 ton. You've got a proper number.
     
  11. muttafokker
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    i really appreciate the help fellas. now i'm at the mercy of dmv to issue me a title. thanks again, kenny
     
  12. MN Falcon
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    Yes. As Bruce said the engines were numbered sequentially from the first one to the last one. It didn't matter which vehicle the engine went in, so Vanpelt's site is a little misleading in that aspect, he was more concerned about posting hte info for cars. The "VIN" number that you provided the "99" means that it is the 95-100 Hp V8. The "T" is the type of vehicle where the "T" means 1.5 ton and the rest of the number is the sequential. Was/is your truck complete? Does it look like a '40 bigger truck. In '42 the trucks were redesigned. In '42 all the different size trucks look the same. You should be able to tell which year range it was from the looks of the front grill to be sure.
     
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  13. muttafokker
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    it was the vin off of a truck that i bought for parts.i didnt have a vin for mine so i'm gonna use the vin off of the parts truck which was a commercial rack body truck.
     
  14. MN Falcon
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    Can I ask you a question about your frame "VIN"? Do you have a "dash" between the "T" and the sequential number? This is for my info, trying to deal with my own frame right now.
     
  15. muttafokker
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  16. MN Falcon
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    What year do you think your truck is? Is yours a 1/2 ton pickup?
     
  17. muttafokker
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    i think all the cabs 40-47 were the same with the exception of the dash .i have the chrome ford script plate on the dash center.
     
  18. muttafokker
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    my truck in progress.
     

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  19. MN Falcon
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    I think that was the early one. Neither of my '46 cabs have that dash, they are just plain centers. The '42-47 were the same.
     
  20. MN Falcon
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    With what you are doing that VIN should be all that you need -- its correct enough.

    That is a nice looking truck.
     

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