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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by rick3658, Feb 6, 2009.

  1. rick3658
    Joined: Feb 3, 2009
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    Ok i give up trying to put starter in my street rod!! New 168 tooth flex plate new starter for 168 tooth starter and all it does kick the bendis and gear and get stuck in flex plate will not turn engine over even with plugs out.... Is there a way to tell i flex plate is backwards and would this cause this problem??? I am at my end with thing
     
  2. Dooley
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    Does it rotate by hand?

    I ask because I jammed my flexplate into the converter once, and could not spin the motor.

    Could the starter need shimming to line up better?
     
  3. Von Rigg Fink
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    did you try a shim?
    see if the bendix gear is hitting the flexplate..(is it getting into the teeth on the flexplate but not releasing once its done its job?)\\Dooley yer quick on the keys..lol
     
  4. rick3658
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    Tried shimms one two three none still the same
     
  5. Von Rigg Fink
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    how does the starter gear look when it comes up to the flexplate teeth? do this by hand if you can..

    does it mesh into the teeth? or hit the flexplate?
     
  6. rick3658
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    Meshes and then does not release until i loosen the starter
     
  7. tbroich
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    Is it out of gear? I've seen stranger things happen.
     
  8. rick3658
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    Yep and on jack stands
     
  9. Von Rigg Fink
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    is it possible that the starter isnt square with the flexplate when tightened up into place on the block..(slightly kicked a bit sideways?)
     
  10. born loser
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    where did you buy the starter?
    You tried shims and it still gets stuck? hmmm
    Youre sure that the starter and flexplate are compatible?
    Good battery/good wires?

    I chased starter problems for a month. All my problems went away when I put on a Premium Napa starter. 70 bucks and my nightmare is over...
     
  11. rick3658
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    That could be i would have to look at it if it is then what
     
  12. born loser
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  13. Von Rigg Fink
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    see how much it moves down while loosening the bolts ( a little at a time)
    when it lets go (the bendix) measure the distance the starter moved down.

    if your starter is kicked a bit out of square and thats causing the issue, than you have to be sure before it gets tight to the block that it stays square..

    to be honest Ive never had any huge issues with all the SBC starters ive installed over the years, but than again they have all been OEM set ups ( hope by saying this i havent jinxed myself)
     
  14. randydupree
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    i have seen starters that someone had ground on the mounting pad,for whatever reason.
    get another starter..
     
  15. MedicCustoms
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    check the bolt pat. their are different bolt pats on starters their should be three bolt holes in the block. Get a cast iron (steel) nose and a starter brace for back of starter to block. some of sbc had to have this brace.if they did not they would binde. hope this helps
     
  16. I went through a half a dozen starters for my 454 before I got one that didn,t grind or bind.I was beginning to think I fucked something up....
     
  17. Special Ed
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    I've seen the Napa starters solve at least four different starter problems.
     
  18. chevyshack
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    Sounds like you need to shim it. They should sell a shim kit at autozone. Hows your battery? I just went through changing my starter for nothing couple months ago. My battery wasnt charging properly and was causing the starter to stick.
     
  19. You might want to count the teeth on your flexplate just to be certain.After working in a parts store,I have found out that you don't always get what you think you have in the box as marked.
     
  20. Rich Rogers
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    not in my case it didn't. Took 3 napa starters and 2 old starters for differant parts to get mine to work on a sbc. Not knocking Napa but I've never had any luck with anything electrical from them and I've been dickin with cars for over 35 years
     
  21. rick3658
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    Thank you thank you i winner is added another ground cable from frame to engine and took right off thanks for all the help you guys are great!!!!!
     
  22. Von Rigg Fink
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    very cool, glad it was that easy.
     
  23. alex1954chevy
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    AMEN BROTHER!
    i went through countless shim configerations and 4 autozone starters before i got smart and got a napa starter. sounds beautiful with zero shims
     

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