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Motor Mount Question: I6 to V8 in '59 Chevy

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Southfork, Oct 11, 2008.

  1. Southfork
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    My '59 Chevy Parkwood longroof has got to get a V8 soon so I can go camping in it. From the factory, the '59 came with an inline six. As big a car as it is, it really should have a V8, and I've planned to put a 350 SBC and a Saginaw 4 speed in it, but I'm just not getting it done even though I've got the components to replace the six. Maybe if I could get a question about the motor mounts answered, I would get moving on this project:

    The factory motor mounts for the in-line six engine won't work for the SBC 350, or will they? Seems like I heard or read that swapping the motor mounts side for side, or reversing them front to back, or some such would accommodate the SBC without having to do anything but re-orienting the mounts. Anybody ever used the in-line six motor mounts to put a SBC in their '59/60 Chevy?
     

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  2. B.A.KING
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    i swapped out a 6 for a v-8 in my 59 elky, wished i had left the 6 in it. why cause now i just got another sbc in it. they got a lot of cool parts for those things(6's),make good power? , put a 5 speed behind it and be different. but to answer your question, you need v-8 mount from a 58-64 ch***ie,bolts in diff holes. not real compicated if i can do it:D. good luck. after re thinking your post ,it's way to hard to do this swap, you really need to let me have the wagon, and save yourself alot of work.;)
     
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  3. junkmn
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    Howdy from the land of Oz, Ive just recently been through this situation, the standard 6 cyl mounts cause the engine to sit to far forward and not allowing the trans mount to line up hence creating a prob for the tailsaft, however the quickest and easist way around this would be to unbolt a pair of V8 basemounts out of a wreck (im sure there must be a 58 - 64 wreck some close by) and bolt them straight in! thats all I did, the rest is a breeze and you will be up and runnin in no time at all! Our aussie ***embled models came out here with 6s but in 1960 we got them with 283s hope this helps out! cheers JUNKMN.
     
  4. Southfork
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    Sometimes I have to admit to myself that I am not a very good custodian of this long roof. I have had it for about 5 years (good ***le and all) and it just sits where it is in the picture. If I don't get moving on it and it get it running pretty soon, then I don't deserve to have it.
     
  5. B.A.KING
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    hey ,most of us are guilty of that some time or another, hang in there. i can tell you that will be a FUN car,tho:D
     
  6. squirrel
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    get the mount brackets from a 58-64 with the V8, they're not too hard to find.
     
  7. 55 dude
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    hey squirrel, the mounts you need are 58-61. my 64' wagon came with 230 and the mounts look different than my 60' with 235. i went through a real headache because the P.O. had put in mounts from a 75' nova making the engine sit way to high.
     
  8. squirrel
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    The 58-64 V8 mounts are all the same.

    The six mounts changed when they went from the 235 to the 230, as you say.
     
  9. Southfork
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    So the 59/60 Chevys could be had from the factory with either 235 or 230 in-line sixes, or else 283 or 348 V8s? Would a 250 or 292 six bolt in using the stock six motor mounts, I wonder?
     
  10. d2_willys
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    Not quite: the newer generation sixes 194/230/250/292 were first used in 62 Novas (194) then in full size in 63. The 58-64 full size ch***is should accomodate both 235 and newer gen sixes. The base mounts are the difference.

    About the only question is if the newer gen sixes will match up with the v8 mounts, which I believe do, since I once installed a 194 in place of a 283 without much issue, other than the driveshaft length. The 194 Powerglide was shorter than the 283 PG/
     
  11. squirrel
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    The newer 230/250 should work with the 58-64 V8 frame brackets, if you use the truck engine brackets and V8 rubber mounts.
     
  12. squirrel
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    No, as said above the 230 wasn't used in full size cars until 63.

    The newer 230/250 should work with the 58-64 V8 frame brackets, if you use the truck engine brackets and V8 rubber mounts.
     
  13. nuwguy
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    the 292 has a diffrent mount location on the p***. side than the 250,but there are weld in mounts for the 292 from T6 racing.
     
  14. Hellfish
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    The 235 will handle your car just fine, but it will be slow. It did alright from the factory, right?

    Anyway, I pulled the 235 from my 59 and dropped in a 350/350. Super easy. Pull the 235 and it's motor mounts. Bolt in v8 mounts. The holes are already in the frame for either motor. I had to drill a new hole or 2 in the crossmember to mount the trans, but that was easy. Then I had to take the driveshaft in for some shortening. I don't know about what you have, but the 235/powerglide shaft is longer than what I needed for a 350/350. You should change the u-joints and carrier bearing anyway, so do it all at once.
     
  15. pasadenahotrod
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    You must have used a long tailshaft 350 Turbo. We installed a 409 with 350 Turbo in a 64 SS and it was a drop-in BUT we did have the short tail 350 Turbo.
     
  16. Southfork
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    Hey, got some more poop on this old thread! Thanks for the recent input.
    Just this afternoon I made a deal with a guy on a 350 SBC. It's a '68 with only 34K original miles - still in the '68 pickup that it was originally put in at the factory. It's got a pickup 4 speed (2WD) ******, however, but wtf, I'm going to buy it anyway. A '68 SBC engine looks pretty much like a '59 SBC, with the oil fill tube in the manifold and all. Plus, it probably has 4-bolt mains. The seller guy started the pickup for me and it ran, but backfired a little. But, i'ts been sitting most of it's life (the original owner still had his maintenance record in the pickup, and by 1991 it had only 16,500 original miles recorded. That's where the maintenance record stopped recording mileage. I wonder how a floor shift 4 speed would look in the '59 wagon? Probably blend right in. Those '59 wagons have some strange lines.
     
  17. Hellfish
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    It was from a '78 Caprice. I have no idea what kind of tailshaft it has.

    My 350 had all the smog **** and power steer and AC junk on it. I got rid of all that and replaced it with an Edelbrock carbbed manifold. Now it looks like an early SBC... not that I ever have the hood up for show anyway.
     
  18. B.A.KING
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    i'm tellin ya,it's a lot o work;).you need to sell it to me.it will be a perfect match for my 59 elky.:D
     

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