Who were all of the manufacturers of "dragmaster" styled

Who were all of the manufacturers of "dragmaster" styled ch***is?

I know some companies evolved into others...who all were they?

I am trying to do a little research on the subject but I am having a hard time finding anything.....

Who was it that pm'd me a long time ago about the buddy that restores vintage dragsters? They gave me a name but I have lost the info after the "Big Crash of 04".

 

I am particularly interested in the 130" wheelbase cars.

 

Jazzy Jim Nelson and Dode Martin from Carlsbad were behind Dragmaster.

 

Root, I seem to remember Logghe Stamping might have made the dragmaster style frames. I mostly remember them from their altereds though. Try looking in early 60''s Hot Rod Magazine for adverti*****ts.

 

Root - I'm not sure what you mean by Dragmaster Styled ch***is.

The early builders of note were Ch***is Research, Dragmaster, Fuller, and out East, Logghe Stamping.

Mutt

 

Yea they did a lot of different stuff

Ron & Gene Logghe
aka The Logghe Brothers
Logghe Stamping Co.

check here for some more info:
The Logghe Bros

 

I thought Logghe Ch***is made them first....but then again....I don't know much.

If anyone does find info, post it here for others to see.

 

Whoops looks like you guys beat me to the punch.

 

What about Scotty??? Fenn? I am drawing a blank.....

 

Scotty Fenn was Ch***is Research.


Mutt

 

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Root - I'm not sure what you mean by Dragmaster Styled ch***is.

The early builders of note were Ch***is Research, Dragmaster, Fuller, and out East, Logghe Stamping.

Mutt

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I guess what I mean are the big main tube styled ,front engine, short wheel base dragster......How's that?

 

Dragmaster...

 

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Root - I'm not sure what you mean by Dragmaster Styled ch***is.

The early builders of note were Ch***is Research, Dragmaster, Fuller, and out East, Logghe Stamping.

Mutt

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I guess what I mean are the big main tube styled ,front engine, short wheel base dragster......How's that?

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That's what I thought, but there was a company in Ohio that started re-popping the Dragmaster ch***is in the 90's. They may still be in business - I'm not sure.

The Early Ch***is research aren't very good for updating due to the style. I would look for a mid-late 60's ch***is, of you're looking for a used one, because they are easier to update for tech. There's a lot of them out there that are being used for bracket cars.

Here's a place to start...

http://www.fedaonline.org/



Mutt

 

Hey Roothawg,
I was wasting time trying to find some info on Dragmaster and found this wanted ad. You might e-mail this kat and see what he knows.

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Looking for a Dragmaster frame from the 60s. Also looking for any memrobilia, photos, etc. collecting information for a book on the Dragmaster era. R.L. Hauk email: RhaukJr@bellhelicopter.textron.com
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Jay Dean, of the Jalopy Shoppe, in Escondido, CA, just happens to be a neighbor of Dode Martin, and also just found a complete Dragmaster 130" ch***is. Dode looked at it, and said "yep, that's one of mine"- Don't know what Jay intends to do with it, and he just left for 2 weeks in England last Thursday.I'm pretty usre the number at the Jalopy Shoppe is (760) 740-0120, if that helps.

 

Jim "Jazzy" Nelson and Jim Nelson of Dragmaster were different guys.

The early manufactured ch***is from Ch***is Research (Scotty Fenn) and Dragmaster were "skidbar" frames, shaped like a dogsled. Fuller built two skidbar ch***is for Ivo, the single-engine Buick and the twin, but only because Ivo wanted a CR-style car but wanted to get around paying CR for it.

Fuller didn't care for the concept. Commenting on the skidbar design, he had observed that dragsters didn't simply roll over and skid--they tended to turn around and slam into things rearend first, where the skidbar frame offered little or no protection for the driver. This led Kent to create the rear profile center loop and tire-high horizontal loop style that would become the standard of dragster ch***is design throughout the history of the front-motor cars.

 

The skid bar style of cage is not what I want. I am not going to buy an old ch***is, I want to build a new one that fits a big guy. New style cage hidden in an old look. It will be safe but have the looks of an old ch***is.

 

Speaking of which....I'm selling my F-1 to buy this....the deal is in progress but looks like I may have it in time for Austin..........it belongs to my pal Jamie....but I should have my grubby hands on it soon.....

 

Pete Ogden's commercial ch***is is the only current tech piece that looks correct. He's done a very tasty job of incorporating the second top loop and you hardly notice it. (There may be others, but none I'm aware of.) The Stirlings and Ureyhara's that are currently the hot setup in GG/VRA racing are gawdawful ugly and entirely without soul.

BTW, not sure what it is that makes you favor even the later, non-skidbar Dragmaster ch***is over a Fuller, Huzar, Gilmore, or Long ch***is, Root. The CR and Dramaster type ch***is was heavy and had reached the limits of its potential in the late '50s.

If you're going to build a digger, might I suggest something like the car Fuller built for Western Manufacturing -- a blown gas Chevy that was as quick, fast, and good as it was handsome. Just tailor the cage and seat to your own needs, as Fuller did for all his clients, and you're there.

It's a simple matter to continue the rear dorsal hoop forward to tie into a new cross hoop -- seriously leaned back -- to meet current tech/safety regs.

 

If you are at all interested in building a Fuller-style ch***is, Root, I have lots of good info and detailed pics.

I've been trying to get Fuller interested in doing a FED design manual, along the lines of the AV8 book Vern Tardel and I did. I'm getting him closer to doing the project but there's still a little bit of distance away from an okay.

In the meantime, check out some of the details of a Fuller ch***is . . .

Like this three-link front end . . .




. . . with details. Notice the boxed bracket where the torsion arm connects to the axle.



Here you can see the ever-so-slight outward bend of the torsion arm at its base to make it line up with the axle-control link. Was this mechanically essential? No, says Fuller. 'So, then, why'd you do it?', someone asks.

'Because that's the way it's supposed to be.' says Fuller.

 

Any pictures of the K-88 type ch***is? That's the one that I dig. About 150" wheelbase.

 

Lee Schelin runs Standard 1320 and is also building a FED.
Check it out. He's pretty tight with TV.

 

The first m*** produced dragster ch***is was built by Pat Bilbow of Lindwood Welding in Wilkes Barr, Pensylvania. I'm restoring one that was built for The Modifiers of Danbury Connecticut in 1959. The photo was taken in the pits at Dover Drag Strip in June of 1962. There was a feature article in How to Hop-Up Your Engine in the August 1960 issue. Every Lyndwood ch***is was designed around the driver, I've never seen two that were the same. The one I'm restoring is a 92 inch wheelbase, and could be one of the ch***is in the feature photo.

 

From How To Hop-Up Your Engine August 1960

 

root i think you're talking about me with the pm. anyways it was a friend tommy who works for dode, if you do come across the number don't call it, that is now his ex's number . i'll look for his new number and send you a pm

 

Hey Root. Join the " we did it for love" web site. It has all the info you will ever want about Dragmaster Ch***is and such. The other was Scotty Fenn. He built them with the roll bars parallel with the frame rails(ie TV Ivos twin Buick )My car is a 67 or 68 logghe Ch***is but it is 170 inches.

 

Mike, that is some great info. You are correct, I would LOVE to build a ch***is like that but.....my desires outweigh my abilities and I can't afford a Gilmore or Fuller car.

I figured I could use a later material like Chrome Moly to replicate the earlier styled ch***is without all the weight. It would be fairly simple to fabricate and would be pretty versatile.

I just have a fetish for cars in the early kinda primitive drag racing days.

 

I guess I need to go to Oklahoma City and get a schooling on fuel injection, still looking for pit crew help?......I could learn a lot from you and your pops.....I'm totally green to Hilborn fuel delivery systems.........

 

Would the torsion bar setup on the front of those Fuller ch***is pics work ok for a street car, if shocks were added? Very beautiful, simple design...