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New edelbrock Slingshot and triple deuce

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by RancheroMan, Nov 4, 2008.

  1. HotRodMicky
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    I will buy one!
     
  2. Capitan Insano
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    I talked to Vic and one of his guys. This manifold won't kill the price of the originals because there are some changes and you can tell from 10 feet away. It is a cool product and is going to be very popular. Also with the 3x2 they changes the runners to flow better makes one bolt hole very hard to get to. Don't get to excited the block letter heads are on back order for 3 months now. I bet the intakes will be the same after the first couple runs.
     
  3. Sixcarb
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    Do they make the differences to leave original pieces a bit different? Insano said that there are noticeable differences on the new intake and I also noticed that the lettering on the heads is different from the old ones as well. I have been wondering what there reason was for not exzactly duplicating the original pieces.
     
  4. RancheroMan
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    you gotta remember, new items are machined by a computer, not by hand.
    that's why you see long milling marks on the sides of the castings for bolt holes.
    if you can tweak the design for better flow, i say do it. do what you want regarding the badge, but once you get it polished, it'll still look great.
    and, best of all it won't cost you near 3k.
    an ace in my book when coupled with the block letter heads.
    our voices are not in vain, at least someone is listening.

    Hemi, nailhead and Y's.... that would all be good.
    small steps, it can be done.
     
  5. That's why I love the HAMB. We (the enthusiasts) get a company to tool up and make a manifold for an engine that was obsolete the day it was produced, then proceed to complain about what it will do to the market... shoot foot here!

    I'm excited that a company will actually LISTEN to what it's customers want, will invest the money to make it, and will sell it to the people that want it. And do it here in the USA!

    Imagine what would happen if the "BIG 3" did the same... my buddies wouldn't be selling off all they own to make house payments!

    Smirking in the corner here,

    Jay
     
  6. oldestman
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    I just picked up on this thread. I had previously been registered here, but no longer remembered any of the sign in stuff. I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in here.

    I'm the one that sold the really high priced :eek: Slingshot on eBay back in June or July. Capitan Insano is right on the money when he says there are obvious differences. The milling for bolt hole clearance is radically more sophisticated and deeper into the runners. It also appears that the Made in USA sticker is placed on a raised pad that wasn't there in the original. It's going to be really hard to p*** one of these off as "original." While I had mine listed, I found out that there are at least four bottoms lacking tops. My guess is we're going to see some hybrids down the road with original bases and new tops. I can't see any differences in the tops.

    Someone commented earlier on numbers stamped into the originals. Mine had no such number. Someone also made a comment about the height of the acorn nuts. The nuts on the repop are the same height as the one in the Edelbrock Museum, and the ones on mine. As Vic Sr. produced them over a period of years it's unlikely that he bought 400+ of them when he made the first castings. At any given time he could have purchased acorns that were taller.

    Though I didn't mention it in my eBay auction, I suspect mine was one of the very first castings and may well have been the original (We'll never know!). Mine was unique a**** all I've seen, including the one in the museum. The balance cuts between the right and left carb ports are all machined. On mine, they were hand filed.

    I'm going to try to attach some pictures to this post. The first is the manifold as it was when I first got it. The second is after it was cleaned. The third is mine sitting next to the one in the museum. The last is a close up of the hand filed balance cut. BTW, the picture of the museum Slingshot on the Edelbrock web site is highly retouched. The polish job is very typical "back in the day" work with every hard to get nook and cranny carefully avoided and lots of open "pores."
     

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  7. B*** my man, you got it in one !!

    We should be applauding Vic Jnr and his crew for doing this. There's a reason why he's wealthy - Edelbrock thoroughly researches their markets, know what their customers want and deliver.

    There are a lot of companies around that could learn a thing or two from Edelbrock and the way that they go about things.

    FWIW, I met Vic Jnr back in '02, the perfect host and a gentleman if I ever met one.

    Rat
     
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  8. Comet
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    Cool! I wouldn't raise my nose at anyone running one of the new ones. Sometimes I think people get too uptight about being "period perfect." Some very few cars should have original parts (museum or significant historical cars), but for the rest of us that just like to drive them, cool if ya got gennie stuff, but like I said I wouldn't look down my nose at this type of thing. I laugh sometimes at when I see a car with Halibrand mechanical fuel injection, but his car runs like **** because he can't dial it in right. What's the point if we can't drive them?
     
  9. banjorear
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    I re-read this thread and laugh hard when I first read this. Coming back to it, I laughed even harder.

    Great line B***!
     
  10. banjorear
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    Anyone know when this bad boy is coming out to retailers?
     
  11. chappys4life
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    how well do the slongshots preform? I would like to get one and 2x holley 94's for my future 8ba
     
  12. oldestman
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    I spoke with one of the higher ups at Edelbrock about ten days ago, and they haven't worked out a marketing strategy or pricing yet. I also got the impression that the economy has hit them hard and new products are not high on their priority list at the moment. I don't think the FE 2X4 AirGap has hit the streets yet and it was due out in December.

    Art
     
  13. oldestman
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    Forgot to mention, if anyone is looking for a really unusual and gorgeous 2X2 flathead manifold, search ePay for auction 280316977244 or search for Freiman flathead. It's not me, but I do know the guy.

    Art
     
  14. chappys4life
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    sweet looking intake wish i had the cash for it
     
  15. topls41
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    I have an original sling shot and SU 359. These new slingshots are different enough that you won't be able to fool someone who is knowledgeable. The casting is thicker and cut differently where the carbs mount. I saw an original sell on eBay for just under $3000. Another guy posted one the following week and was not able to get a buyer at $2499. Timing is everything I guess.

    I will list my SU 359 on eBay. I will probably hang on to my "one of 100" just for the nostalgia factor. Of course if I sold it I could buy lots of goodies for my flathead!

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  16. topls41
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    There are no numbers on my original slingshot that I have noticed. Where did you see one with a stamped number? Perhaps I shall have to look more closely!

     
  17. topls41
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    Thanks for posting this information!!
     
  18. BlackMagicKustoms
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    ****ster was gracious enought to use and original SU 359 on the unit he put together for me.
     

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  19. oldestman
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    My slingshot went for $3,000 on the nose. There have been about 6 others show up since then including, as I recall, 2 with no tops. I think one went for $2,700 and the others $2,500 or slightly less. The ones with no tops didn't reach reserve.

    I'm not too sure about the distance between the carb ports being different. If you look at the close up of the balance cut (file groove) I posted, you'll see that the ports are clearly "opened up" by hand filing. Looking at it and trying to picture the separation had the filing not been done, it looks pretty close to the same as the new one. Don't forget, both have been designed with 97's in mind so you're dealing with a known distance apart. I have a shot of the Edelbrock museum piece top that shows the distance. I'll post it with this. I think it's pretty close to the same as the repop. The museum piece appears to be unmodified. I also think that it's one they picked up when the museum idea was formulated, rather than a family keepsake. If anyone is interested, I've got lots of close up pictures of the museum slingshot I can post as I was thinking about polishing mine to the same standard at one point.

    I fully agree that nobody knowledgeable is going to be fooled. I suggested to Edelbrock that they cast a few extra top sections as I was contacted by 5 or 6 people who had ******* slingshots while mine was running on eBay. All wanted to know if I had an extra top. I can easily understand how tops disappeared if the pieces were separated. Someone coming across the top would think it was some kind of goofy dual carb adaptor and dump it. There is nothing on the top section to identify who made it or what it fit.

    Art
     

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  20. oldestman
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    Better yet!
     

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  21. sr
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    I did some hunting today and picked this up and a tornado. I am now looking for a top. The old timer may have it in a stash but there is so much stuff to dig through.
     

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  22. cobra027
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    Hi,
    I have an inside guy at Edelbrock,,,and they DO have the slingshot product out on the production floor.It is just a matter of weeks now,,so all you guys hang loose.Rumpidy,Rumpidy,Rumpidy goes the SU-1A,,,,,,,Bryan
     
  23. plym49
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    I was an Edelbrock bigot for many years. Bought, installed and ran almost every category of product they offer.

    About 6 or 7 years ago I started runnin into problems. Shocks, headers, exhaust systems, etc.: they all preformed poorly and failed quickly.

    And Edelbrock really did not back me up. Their telephone staff could not handle the problem, it had to be kicked upstairs, but that guy was always too busy to return the call or do anything.

    As a result, I am off Edelbrock. It's a shame, they are an icon of our hobby, but I am done.
     
  24. BanjoBoy
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    Love it or hate it
    I love Edelbrock
    just scored an original SLINGSHOT
     
  25. Bud Crane
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    On the 5th of July this year, I bought an original slingshot on EBay for a $175 "buy it now" price. The opening bid called for $50.

    For those guys who need a top, Ken Austin makes repop tops. I can't tell them from an original. I used one on my car.

    I still think the slingshot is the best street manifold made for a flathead. It'll run just fine with one carb blocked, both carbs running straight, or set them to open progressivly, like a single 4-barrel.
     

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