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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by grenadefist, Mar 8, 2009.

  1. grenadefist
    Joined: Feb 13, 2009
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    I want to get a shrinker/ stretcher on the cheap. Anyone know where to go? Ones that you have used. Bad ones to steer clear from. Thanks G
     
  2. TurboHaddix
    Joined: Jan 10, 2009
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    If you like supporting Chinese babies Harbor freight sells one for $100 that has interchangeable heads for shrinking and stretching. It works well for a diy home built kind of person.
     
  3. budd
    Joined: Oct 31, 2006
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    go to Harbour Freight, mine works just fine, get the stand but you will have to do a little work on the legs there kinda flimsy.
     
  4. grenadefist
    Joined: Feb 13, 2009
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    I was wondering about thiers. Kind of scared to buy, since my bead roller didn't turn out to be that great.
     
  5. we had the eastwood ones at the shop i used to work at.. i was broke and had a coupon so i decided to buy the harbor frieght ones... they are identical... infact.. id say EXACTLY the same.

    i even thought of taking the HF dies and sending them out to be hardend, but after a close inspection i discovered they come pre-hardened.

    to keep it cheap i just made my own stand.
     
  6. cafekid
    Joined: Dec 4, 2008
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    we have the eastwood ones at my shop. theyre pretty nice...... otherwise another company is woodward fab. they have all kinds of cool fab tools on the cheap
     
  7. snowcombine
    Joined: May 3, 2007
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    Am happy with my combo set from Fournier enterprises it is not exactly cheap ($270) it works good.
     
  8. New Old Fart
    Joined: Nov 19, 2008
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    Become an Alliance member and get one with big savings from
    Baileigh Industrial

    After all, they support HAMB
    I don't think any other tool supplier supports us so why support them ?
     
  9. BAILEIGH INC
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    Right on Old Fart! ;)
     
  10. sko_ford
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  11. 50dodge4x4
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    I just got a real nice wish book from you guys. Threw it in the trash. I don't consider anything without knowing what it costs. :mad: Put the damned price of things in the book. Add "prices subject to change" if need be, but at least give me an idea of what something costs. I'm sure not going to waste my time calling about everything I may have a interest in to see how much. Gene
     
  12. fab32
    Joined: May 14, 2002
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    Go to thier website and get the prices.

    Frank
     
  13. Johnny1290
    Joined: Apr 20, 2006
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    I have no doubt that stuff is quality, but I couldn't find a price on their site anywhere. Just a few 'for lease' prices of around $40 a month.

    Too rich for my blood, but great for pros I'm sure.
     
  14. 50dodge4x4
    Joined: Aug 7, 2004
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    They sent me their little booklet, I did not ask for one. I opperate a business, if they wish to sell me something, they should not expect me to jump through hoops to buy something from them. I get plenty of "offers" for equipment with prices clearly posted. The customer should not have to search for price tags. Is it really that hard to post the prices? Gene
     
  15. vintagehotrods
    Joined: Nov 16, 2002
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  16. I agree, if you take the time to print a catalog at least put the freakin price in it......or an updateable pricelist!@ sheesh!
     
  17. RAG66
    Joined: Jun 1, 2008
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    from WASHINGTON

    I agree about Baileigh not posting $$$ I WAS really interested in some of thier stuff until you guys brought that up. I would say they could update a price list fairly quickly. Lease is a horrible way to say " you can borrow it and pay full price over the life of the contract and we'll take it back when your done and leave you w/ nothing."
     
  18. nubsy1
    Joined: Oct 10, 2008
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    from Wisconsin

    I want to do my best to try and clarify a few things that I have been reading.

    It is not a "give it back when the lease is done" type of lease, but rather another term for a loan - you get to keep the equipment after the lease runs it's course.

    We have a few reasons why pricing is not posted:

    Baileigh Industrial has an extensive dealer network throughout the world, and they use our website and literature as reference tools for their customers. Because of this we prefer to not post pricing because it may conflict with the quotes that our dealers are giving to their customers.

    Applications. Many of our customers that call in do not have any idea what items will work for their particular application. This is especially true with benders. If prices are posted most people will just go for the least expensive option regardless of whether or not it will actually work for them. This leads to an absolute nightmare for our returns department and alot of unhappy customers that receive tools that they ordered only to find out that the unit they ordered will not work for them. Trust me - there is no winners in this situation!

    I hope this clears up a few questions for you guys. You all do awesome work and I enjoy following your projects here on the H.A.M.B.

    Best Regards,

    Jon Newberg - Sales Manager
    Baileigh Industrial
     
  19. Dan10
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    Jon,

    Thanks for the explanation. I too work at a business that will not undercut it's sales people and you will most certanly pay more if buying direct from the company. Thanks for supporting the H.A.M.B.
     
  20. J'st Wandering
    Joined: Jan 28, 2004
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    Did I miss the answer?

    What is the alliance price for the Baileigh Shrinker Stretcher MSS-18?


    I get a kick out of the price I found on the web site. "The complete unit is in stock and sells for a reasonable price."

    Neal
     
  21. DeucePhaeton
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    nubsy1<SCRIPT type=text/javascript> vbmenu_register("postmenu_3789612", true); </SCRIPT>
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    I just sent for one of your catalogs...
    At least insert a price list in it to ball park what I'm looking at.
    I've been a Toolmaker, Machinst for 30 years. Qualillty costs.
    I'd like to know a ballpark price.
    Wake Up! So would everybody else.
    Regards,
    BKR
     
  22. 60 Belair
    Joined: Feb 19, 2006
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    the harbor freight stuff is ok if you do not plan on very much extended use and you will end up with the upper fulcrum under extending and slipping off the upper push beam because of a bent pin that the fulcrum bar pivots on . And being a bent pin inside a large chunk of straight steel it is very hard to get out .
    Good luck Andy
     
  23. Iceberg460
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  24. roughidle
    Joined: Feb 1, 2009
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    Harbor Freight, Woodwardfab, Eastwood all sell the same exact stuff. If you look closely there are no differences other than what color they are painted. I have been buying some of these tools like a beader roller from hf, works good once you weld some angle iron across the back to beef it up a bit. Paid a helluva lot less dough for it than I would have through any of these others. Eastwood even says in their catalog that these alot of their tolls are imported. Buy the hf tools and when they break and cannot be fixed throw it out and go get another. Just my 2 cents
     
  25. buckeye_01
    Joined: Jun 20, 2005
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    Huh? That is a horrible answer for not putting a price in your catalog or online.

    I am in the market for an english wheel. Your company was the first place I went. There were no prices so I clicked though. I'd love to give you my money but without a price all your pretty pictures are useless to me.

    They look like great products but I'll probably never know unless I buy one used.
     
  26. DavidL
    Joined: Oct 6, 2006
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    Rookie question...is it better to get the version with the 8" throat depth?

    Baileigh MSS-16 vs MSS-18:
    http://www.bii1.com/metal-forming/shrinker-stretcher.php

    The MSS-16 definitely looks more sturdy, but with my limited shop space, I think I could find room to store the MSS-18 easier.
     
  27. MeteorMan
    Joined: Dec 5, 2008
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    Rookie answer;). The MSS-16 and MSS-18 both are listed with an 8" throat depth.
    It appears that the MSS-16 is one unit with two sets of jaws (one for shrinking and one for stretching) and has a 16 guage capacity.

    The MSS-18 is two separate units with a 18 guage capacity and a handy-dandy stand.

    So, it boils down to what guage metal you're working with, whether you want to change the jaws and if you need a stand or not:D.

    Since I've never used one, I have no idea how often one would have to change jaws or how big a h***le it is. But like others have said, if there were a price listed, that would also help determine which one I'd get.
     
  28. John_Kelly
    Joined: Feb 19, 2003
    Posts: 535

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    Hi Jon,

    Kerry Pinkerton makes some of the best english wheels available:

    www.wheelingmachines.com

    John www.ghiaspecialties.com
     

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