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Ford 4.6L in a '61 Starliner

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 4dFord/SC, Mar 2, 2009.

  1. redhumphries
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    you could put the SVT 5.4 shelby mustang engine in it over 500 horse here is one in a 55 Ford Conv. I am doing for a customer. Although not hamb friendly I put one in a 68 Mustang conv. gt 500 clone. Allmost finished with it just getting good on the 55 RED
     
  2. 4dFord/SC
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    Here's what it looks like now....
     

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  3. modracer
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    A cheaper version of the Cobra motor is to buy a mid 90's Lincoln Mark 8. These cars have the 32 valve motor in them and also have an independent rear with disc brakes.Lots of good parts to do the conversion with. I have seen them wrecked as cheap as 500.00 and running/driving for 1000-1200.
     
  4. The Starliner is a great looking car. I bought about 4 of the AMT models of it when they came out.:)
    It oughta be a lot of fun with the updated engine:D
     
  5. turdytoo
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    [
    BTW, an excellent source for the 4 cam motors is 4 door Lincoln Continentals. My Dad bought one new back in the 90's, and that car would flat friggin SCREAM!!!!!!

    I recently saw one in the local dime rag for $800...... Worth considering.[/quote]
    That Continental motor is FWD and there is no RWD transmission that will bolt to that block. If you don't use a computer for that engine, you will still have to have something like a Baumann ($500) or a TCI ($800) transmission controler to make that AODE work.
     
  6. modracer
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    Can't say as I have ever ran across a Continental with a 32 valve in it as most were either 302's or the standard 4.6's but they were all the big 4 door ones . That's one good thing about the 2 door Mark 8's though is that are rear wheel drive so motor,trans,rear and everything could be adapted in to an older car.
     
  7. turdytoo
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    Wanna but one for $200.00? The Mark 8 motor IMO is a good choice for a heavy car because of the priority intake set up as opposed to the later tumble port heads that make the real HP when racing.
     
  8. modracer
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    Yea I think the Mark 8 motor is still rated around 290hp. The intake looks leave a little to be desired but the later model Cobra intakes will swap onto them and there are also guys out there that do carbureted intakes and conversions too.
     
  9. Pir8Darryl
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    The FWD and RWD continentals both use the same modular ford V8.

    There's a racer-boy here in Louisville who put the complete 4 cam [32 valve] FWD motor and ****** from a conti into a focus. That ****er is WICKED fast!
     
  10. NTAPHSE
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    Check out the new Car Craft they have an article about swapping the 4.6 into older Fords. They tell which models to look for in the junk yard and other tips.
     
  11. Hanksville Hot Rods
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    That's a sweet-looking car. It should be a nice cruiser with mod motor power. You can't beat the reliability and driveability of the factory fuel injection but I'm kinda partial to the carb manifolds that Kar Kraft makes for the DOHC 4.6s and 5.4s. They just look good.
     

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  12. r759ca
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    late continentals are front drive 3.8 you want to look at mark VIII's. they are the ones with the 4valve motors
     
  13. Pir8Darryl
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    http://www.theautochannel.com/vehicles/new/reviews/wk9506.html

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    I dont know why you guys are having such a difficult time believeing me. :confused:
     
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  14. redhumphries
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    I know it is over the top but it pays the bills and just looks neat for a 5.4 go ahead and rase me for this couldn't resist
     
  15. custom53
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    i am running a 96 lincoln 4.6 in my model a. it is the 4 cam one. i bought the crank trigger setup for it because it has no distributor and am making a 4 2 bbl intake for it now. it is mated to a 99 mustang 5 speed trans. i think it should run pretty good.
     
  16. pie pie
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    thats one bad a$$ mustang!
     
  17. Most all Navigators have 5.4 motors. Up until, I think, around 2001 or 2002 they were the DOHC ones (I have a 2000). Expeditions also have 4.6 and 5.4's but I don't think any of them were DOHC's. The last time I saw a DOHC 5.4 on Ebay they wanted like 5 grand for it. Could probably get a whole vehicle for that if it was ragged out. However, that deal from Summit seems like a deal. I am in McDonough GA now, I may go by and see if they have one on display there.
     
  18. 4dFord/SC
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    Thanks to everyone for all the great comments and advice.
     
  19. crashfarmer
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    The earlier front drive continentals were 3.8. I have a 1988. The generation after that got the 4.6 DOHC, sometime in the 1990s. They have the same basic engine that my 1994 Mark VIII has.
     
  20. sho1off
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    the lincoln town cars would have the 4.6 they are still rear wheel drive and I think they are 4 cam
     
  21. fast Ed
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    Town Cars were never 4-cam DOHC. The 4.6 DOHC only came in 95-02 Continental FWD, 93-98 Mark VIII, 96-04 Mustang Cobra, and 03-05 Lincoln Aviator SUV (a good source for them). The Navigator has always been 5.4L, it started with the DOHC 4-cam version part way in to the 1999 model year. Went to the SOHC 3-valve version in 2005.


    cheers
    Ed N.
     
  22. Pir8Darryl
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    Negative. Got a 99 town car in the drive right now... Single cam. Never seen or even heard of a quad valve in a TC.

    IMHO, it should have been tho. The single cam in the big sedan just dont quite cut it.

    Since we are on the subject of these motors, I'll just add that we [me, my parents, my brother, and several aunts and uncles] are "lincoln people", and have owned dozens of the modular v8 lincolns. Probably close to 2 million collective miles, and never a single catastrophic engine failure. Only one ****** failure. These are extremely reliable motors.

    My TC was bought near new [demo car] with 22k miles in 2000. Currently has 178,000 miles, and still looks, rides, and runs like new. Only an alternator, a couple coils, and a pesky vacuum leak are the only issues I'v ever had with it.
     
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  23. Misfit
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    We believe you, BUT, the Continental and Mark VIII blocks are different, even though they are both 4.6 DOHC. The FWD Continental has different trans bolt pattern and different motor mount and starter locations. You can't bolt a Cont engine to a RWD transmission (easily)
     
  24. Carguy365-24-7
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    I was in the process of putting a'99 cobra motor in a '50 f-1 but had to stop due to the owner's failing health. I have an engine harness from The detail zone for sale if you are interested.....PAUL
     
  25. Racewriter
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