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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by mulle, Mar 7, 2009.

  1. mulle
    Joined: Mar 6, 2009
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    wheels = aluminum 15"x12" 4,5" bolt pattern :confused:
     

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  2. Shamedevil
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    Could be old Ansen sprints or Halibrand wheels:)
     
  3. MrGasser
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    ...American Standard's...
     
  4. These have got to be some rare puppies!

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  5. Weedburner 40
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    Are they aluminum or Mag? Could be early Palimedes before they were called American Racing
     
  6. Zookeeper
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    That's what I was thinking. The four slots/5 lug pattern sure makes it look like Palamedes, but they appear to be aluminum, weren't all those mag?
     
  7. American Racing Equipment history
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    <TABLE width=770><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>[​IMG] American Racing Equipment was started by Romeo Palimedes in 1959. By 1960, American Racing Equipment was advertising their magnesium rear wheels from six to ten inches wide, along with magnesium spindle-mount twelve-spoked front wheels in 15 by 3 1/2 inches.

    Several years later, in the mid-Sixties, when the M&H Tire Company began making their revolutionary M&H Racemaster wrinkle-wall drag slicks in wider sizes, American Racing Equipment (and Halibrand Engineering) wheels were produced in sizes as large as 16 by 13 inches wide.

    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE width=770><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>[​IMG] The American Racing Standard was an aluminum four-spoke wheel that went into production in 1967.

    The Standard was intended for use on light trucks, and had no provision for attaching a center cap.

    This is a pair of 15 by 8 1/2 Standard wheels that was drilled in the early Ford 5 1/2-inch bolt pattern.

    Part of the appeal of these wheels is their uniqueness. This is an original design that was produced in small numbers and never copied.

    These wheels were never very common. I've never seen a car with a set of four of them. I've seen four pair of these wheels: three pair in California, and the pair shown here. One pair was 15 by 7 and the other three pair were 15 by 8 1/2.

    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE width=770><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>Through the Sixties and into the Seventies, virtually all Top Fuel dragsters used motorcycle-style laced wheels on the front, which were made by lacing machined aluminum hubs to aluminum motorcycle rims that were commonly made in Italy by Akront or Borrani.

    When someone built a new dragster, American or Halibrand might have sold several pairs of rear wheels, but no fronts. For all practical purposes, it was only when someone built a G***er that American or Halibrand would sell a pair of narrow, five-lug, bolt-on, magnesium front wheels. This has become significant to those of us who are now building cars with old magnesium wheels.

    [​IMG] American Racing made magnesium twelve-spoked spindle-mount front wheels in 15 by 3 1/2, 17 by 2 1/2, and 18 by 2 1/2-inch sizes, for Altereds with Anglia or early Ford spindles.

    By the time the altered-wheelbase A/FX (Factory Experimental) drag cars of the mid-Sixties evolved into full-blown Funny Cars in the late Sixties, American was also producing a magnesium spindle-mount version of their cl***ic five-spoked wheel.

    Many styles of American magnesium racing wheels were produced. One was the Le Mans, which was cast so it looked like a Torq-Thrust that had been faced off in a lathe, with the outer surfaces of the spokes being completely flat, similar to the 1970s Pontiac wheels that they inspired.

    [​IMG] Another was the rare 'bear paw' five-spoked wheels, which have a very large rib running down each side of the spokes, so they almost look like ten-spoked wheels. (You may never see a pair of these on a car, but while I was at the 1999 Rat Fink Reunion at Mooneyes in San Leandro, California, I saw a custom-built show trike from the Sixties with a pair of them.)

    Other styles were the original four-slot Standard wide rear wheels; and the extremely successful five-spoked Torq-Thrust and Torq-Thrust "D" five-spokes.

    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Thanks to roadsters.com
     
  8. Zookeeper
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    Very good read, thanks for posting.
     
  9. skidlid
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    Hi I have the xact same wheels on my FED but mine are magnesium 5 on 5 pattern came off a 66 don long ch***is hanna bodied out of Cali all original 15x10...if that helps???
     
  10. skidlid
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    PS...Those look like aluminum....mine are mag and I was told by an expert on the old wheels that the early magnesium are romeo palamedes before american racing wheels
     
  11. Looks like a raised bead around the slots...never saw an American standard like that. Interesting.

    Charlie
     
  12. 49ratfink
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    there is a set of these on a 58 chevy fleetside here in town. truck has been sitting in the same driveway for years.
     
  13. mulle
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  14. 29bowtie
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    Here's a set of those rare "bear paws" on a cool car from up here in Canada.
     

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  15. mulle
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    pictures ?
     
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  18. 37 Coupe
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    I wonder if anyone can i.d. these wheels , 15x8 1/2 5 on 5 , have Ansen Top Eliminator center caps , but they could be swapped . The reason is i'd like to find a matching set of 15x4's for the Coupe .(5 on 4 3/4)
    Thanks
     

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  19. lexman24
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    Man.. Good luck finding the original 15x4's to match. I have been looking for some time for a set of 5 spokes in any manufacturer. The only thing I came across was a pair of aluminum crestlines but they wanted $2500 for them.
     
  20. mulle
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    mulle
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    2 par i Sverige nu så då lutar det nog åt JP fälgar




     

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