Mustang T5 behind SBC??

Will a Mustang T5 work behind a SBC?

 

Of course, anything can be adapted to anything given enough time and money, but you'd be way ahead of the game to use a SBC WC T5 out of a V8 Camaro/Firebird...

I'm sure there's a way to adapt it, but I'm not familiar with it - only thing I can think of is a two-adapter setup. There's a Lakewood bellhousing to put a Toploader behind a SBC and then there's a small adapter to put a T5 where a Toploader once lived (used by the early Mustang crowd). But that seems like a lot of trouble when a Camaro/Firebird V8 T5 will bolt right up to any bellhousing...

 

It'll work fine. Just change the bellhousing.

 

Which bellhousing would you suggest?

 

Ernie, you don't know anything about T5's....haha...

You know, those super common AMC/Jeep ones that are GM barn pattern to Ford toploader pattern....the ones that are flooded on ebay for $5 with free shipping....

Maybe if we start using softer "earth tone" colored fonts, fully italicized, we to will figure out how to make things work fine also....

 

I had actually forgotten about that one...odd since it's so common.

 

If ever you're asked how to hook up a Chevy Small Block to a Mustang T5, there are two ways for you to start. On the left, is the late 70's, early 80's Jeep 151 4 cylinder CJ bellhousing. Since this was the GM Iron Duke engine that Jeep used, the bell has the Cheverolet V8 bolt pattern on the engine side and the Ford T5 pattern on the other. (Originally used with the Jeep T4). On the right is the 4.3L V6 bellhousing from the 86-89 Chevrolet Astrovan. Same Ford and Chevy V8 pattern.

Greg

 

Is the depth correct to use the mustang T5? I have one of those astrovan bells already. The clutch disk would have to be custom make, but thats not an issue. The bushing in the end of the crank would also have to be custom.

 

That's the thing about the Mustang T5's. The V8 T5's had an input shaft shorter than the V6 T5's. However you do it depends upon that.

Greg

 

These things are cheap at the salvage yards. I gave $400 for the T5 that I have in my roadster. Is a WC unit from a 350 Camero. You'll probably spend more money on the adapters and other bits trying to make the Mustang unit fit.

 

I found this today when looking for info on my T-5 swap:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=171291

Damn nice tech work, and answered all of my questions.

 

Ford used at least three input shaft lengths on the Mustang T5.
4 cyl - 7.41"
8/6 cyl (83-93) = 7.18"
8/6 cyl (94-95) = 7.85"

I don't know what the very latest V6 is using for length, but the rear is a bolt-on flange and the shifter is remote (but the shifter box is very far forward - pic attached).

 

Check this thread out:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=313143

I put a mustang T5 connected to a SBC with a Jeep bell housing. You don't want a camaro since the shifter is too far back. A S-10 WC T5 has a electronic speedo and the shifter is too far forward.

 

The Camaro & Mustang shifters are in damn near the same spot. Don't let that long rectangular Mustang shifter fool you - to illustrate, you can use a Mustang shifter on a Camaro by using the rear two holes and redrilling new front holes!

Shifter position will be car dependent...

 

I disagree The camaro shifter is damn near at the end of the tail housing. The mustang is about 5 inches further forward. Just do a eBay search and you will see plenty of photos of each. The camaro T5 is not well suited for most hot rods due tho the shifter location.

 

2" - tops. The shifter goes in the same distance from the rear shifter bolts on both. So the big rectangular shifter box of the Mustang is deceiving. Only compare the rear of the shifter box. These aren't perfectly square pics, but you get the idea.

All my core T5s are about 2500 miles away in storage right now or I'd go measure for you. Only have Jeep T5s here.

For most applications, 2" won't make much of a difference. No doubt, there are some it will...

 

I can pick up a '93 GMC S-15 WC T5 (1352-216) with the Ford bolt pattern for $125. I will need to look for the bellhousings mentioned or can I use a Lakewood Chevy ****tershield redrilled to the Ford pattern? Will the manual clutch arm work? Any suggestions for flywheel, clutch and cltch disc? I know this has the 4.03 first gear but I am planning on using it behind a mild 283 in a Brookville roadster with 30-31" rear tires that I'm looking get good gas mileage (over 20 MPG) out of. What do you think? Recommended gear ratio? I have other NWC S-10 and Camaro T5's too if this isn't a good match.

 

I'd run the Camaro T5 if it's a WC V8 version...lots easier.

 

Unfortunately the Camaro T-5 is not a WC.

 

That's really your best and easiest option for putting a T5 behind a SBC - WC V8 Camaro unit...

You can use the Mustang one, but you need to find the fairly rare AMC bellhousing for the iron duke in a Jeep...(I think - there's a thread on this somewhere - maybe it's an AMC Eagle).

EDIT - It's actually posted up at the top of this page. Read this thread.

 

Is the the '93 S-10 WC T5 different from the WC Mustang T-5 (other than gear ratios)? I thought if I can use the '93 WC S-10 T5 it would be adaptable to the Lakewood bellhousing and I wouldn't need to change the tailshaft on a WC Camaro unit that I haven't been able to find. I haven't been able to find a Camaro WC T-5 in my area yet (more trucks sold around here, Camaro T-5's didn't survive long either). I don't want to pay $500+ for one from out of my area because if its junk you are out your money or the shipping eats you up returning it. I would like to use a Lakewood steel bellhousing (****tersheild) anyway because I have two for SBC to Chev trans already. I thought I could redrill it for the Ford bolt pattern if everything else (input shaft length, splines, etc) would work. This brand new SBC to T5 bellhousing sold on Ebay for $127.50. It looks like the easy way to do it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...0376397374&sspagename=STRK:MEWAX:IT&viewitem=

 

Some time ago I won an auction on ebay for a T5 with Chevy pattern, and after the trans arrived in Italy, I discovered that the dishonest seller had sent me a T5 with Ford pattern. Since sending back or looking for american stuff in the junkyards in Italy was out of question, I decided to have an adapter done. So took a piece of Ergal 2 cm thick, and found the exact center. I had machined on one side wih the bellhousing pattern, and the other side with he trans pattern. Took some time, but was finally able to match the 283 and the 5 speed for my 39 Ford
Here are some pics

 

Man, that is cool. You wouldn't happen to have a mechanical drawing for that would you?

 

Not to my knowledge.

Won't be easy - input shafts are different lengths. You need the AMC bellhousing pointed out above for easy. Beyond that, anything is possible given enough time, money, and effort.

This brand new SBC to T5 bellhousing sold on Ebay for $127.50. It looks like the easy way to do it.

Didn't know Lakewood was making specifc SBC-to-Ford T5 bellhousings. Use that if you can find one. Hard to tell from the pics, but that doesn't quite look like a Ford T5 bolt pattern, but it could just be a stock pic & not the specific part. Does say it's set up for a cable clutch...

 

The T-5 from a Camaro would be your best choice. These are not hard to find. The T5 from an S-10 is a lite duty trans and will grenade with any type of power put to it. And by Camaro, I mean a Z-28 or other V8 model. Heck, find the right yard and you'll score the slave cylinder, bell housing and anything else you'd need.

 

Sorry, no drawings. Just some trial and error.

 

hey I'm new here but I was wondering,

if you use the jeep bellhousing, what flywheel/clutch do you use?
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Hey Tim. New to the board. In regards to the answer you gave Ernie, please tell me on eBay where these are available at this price or under what name I could find this bell housing. I'm looking for one for the same setup on my 2000 Mustang. The motor is pretty much shot and I have a carbed 350 4 bolt main motor that I would like to swap in there. I would appreciate any help.

 

His post was over 8 years ago........

 

I also think he was being sarcastic.