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V8 60 Parts

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by semiauto, Mar 30, 2009.

  1. semiauto
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    I have a 1937 Tin Side V8 60 HP and am finding it difficult to locate parts. Mainly trans parts like the Fork Shaft and Bearings. Does anyone know of a company that sells these parts or any other parts. I have looked through Mac's Antique Auto and their selection is rather small for V8 60 parts. Any information would help or if anyone has parts they would like to sell. Thanks for any help:)
     
  2. revkev6
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    what do you have for a 60 trans?? the later 60 trans. used the same case and gears as the 85hp motors. only difference is a half round clearance cut out of the mounting surface for the starter. I've got a v8 60/ 4 banger trans from a 40 pickup. pretty neat setup. so, you should be able to find a v8 trans that you can use and get all the parts for. also, I do know of a guy who has a BUNCH of smaller v8 60 transmission gear sets.

    his name is Frank Eisold (dunno of that's spelled right) he does flathead rebuilds out of westfield ma. bangers all the way up to bored and stroked race v8 setups. his number is 413-562-0273
     
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  4. semiauto
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    Thanks for the info Rev. I have the Original 1937 Trans from the engine so things don't quite match the 85 Horse setups. What year is your 60? I know the 60's from 37 to 39 are the same except for the Tin Sides on the early 37's. The 1940 V8 60 seems to be a ******* since Ford only made them for one year and parts don't match up with the others like Crankshaft, Trans etc. Thanks for the number too:D And thank you Nash, I didn't know ebay would save a search and e-mail me like that. I did see that ad you linked to me but he didn't have the small parts that I was looking for.
     
  5. revkev6
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    I don't have a 60 at all. I pulled the trans out of the truck for my brother's build. He's putting it behind an 8ba motor.

    I know that the 40 bolts up to a regular sized trans, (the gears are the same size as v8 gears, but have lower ratio's for the little high winding 60hp motor) and i'm pretty sure that the earlier motors use the same bellhousing as well. I'm sure somebody like bruce lancaster can jump in and give us the exact low down here. I wish we could scan that man's brain and create the ultimate early ford parts cross reference knowledgebase. His knowledge off the top of his head is utterly inconceivable!
     
  6. semiauto
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    Just as a side note i am trying to drop this engine in a 1930 Model A. Here's the post:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=347849

    Do you know if the 60 Trans will bolt to the Model A drive shaft, or can I use the 60 engine with the Model A trans and some sort of adapter?

    P.S. I also need the the Model A before this can work. Have one to sell? A coupe or two door sedan will work fine:D
     
  7. revkev6
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    I wouldn't recommend running a v8-60 in a coupe or sedan. anything bigger than a roadster would be a load for that motor. the lighter the better. banger's make 40hp stock but up to the 60-70hp range modded with much better torque numbers than the 60.

    a 60 is 131 cubes. a banger is 200+. the difference is in the torque. I wouldn't put that 60 in anything bigger than a speedster.

    as for the 60-model a driveshaft, I haven't looked at a stock model A ch***is in quite some time. I THINK the trans and driveshaft connect fine. you will have issues with the difference in length and the center crossmember supporting the rear of the trans.
     
  8. 29nash
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    I have a friend that has a '29 Sport coupe for sale. Pm me and I'll connect you.
     

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  9. semiauto
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    Well I figured that it would work better in a Model A than a 37-39 Ford like they were in originally. The model A is lighter and the 60 has twenty more horse power than a standard Model A engine. I just though it would look cool, and the V8 60 has 136 Cubic inches:p I have seen it done in a Model T in a book by Motorbooks Workshop called "How to Build Cl***ic Hot Rod V-8 Engines". Unfortunately they don't go into detail on how they did it:( Any way it looks great and fits nice and snug but I like Model A's a little better. the weights of the V8 60's according to Ron Ceridono with trans and clutch is:

    Model 73 - 411 lbs
    Model 74 - 391 lbs.
    Model 75 - 454 lbs.

    And 94 ft lbs. at 2,500 RPM, is that enough to move the Model A? I'm not going up any steep hills:)
     
  10. Bruce Lancaster
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    actual 60 trans parts require hunting...they are rare but cheap, as no one wants them. Easiest would be to buy a couple extra trans...
    Options: You have the '37-9 60 p***enger trans.
    There exists a '37-9 commercial trans, regular 85 trans but with bell area cast to clear 60 starter, and the 1940 60 sideshift trans, same as above. I think all the big variants use 29 tooth cluster. All are a bit rare.
    Easiest out is to get an 85 trans you like and bore a hole through it where starter drive hits. Add a tin can over the protruding bit and you have duplicated the factory setup.
    This might be a place to think modern... a 60 could really use more gears at both top and bottom end!
     
  11. revkev6
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    bruce, on the trans I found (40 truck toploader) that starter clearance is a machined semicircle. something that could easily be done to any existing trans. It looks to be a standard 78 case that was cut. also, it does have the 29 tooth cluster.
     
  12. Flat Ernie
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    T5 will work nicely for a 60 - most of the "truck" gears will really help with the little engine and OD would work well. Even the worst NWC ratio would probably be just right for the little 60...
     
  13. Hoop-in-JAX
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    Bruce's advice to stick a can over the starter drive is absolutely correct ... if it's "light" beer, at least the can will have served some value.


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    Keep in mind. The 37-39 V8-60 p***enger clutch/pressure plate is different than the '40 ... and than the 85hp. the MDG splines on the early 60 are smaller as is the clutch/pp. You have some parts matching to do.
     
  14. Bruce Lancaster
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    Anybody who's into 60's is used to suffering and figuring out wierd stuff...it was practically a ******* orphan even while it was still in production in the USA. Go look at the Ford technical literature on it...practically nothing.
    And damn, get back on Ebay and find your poor car a vintage beer can!
     

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