SBC in '35 / '36 Ford Without Touching the Firewall

Does anyone have a picture of a '35 or a '36 Ford with a small block Chevy and an untouched firewall? What mounts did you use, custom or otherwise?

Thanks.

 

They just installed a SBC in my dad's '36 Phaeton last week without cutting the firewall. Cragar adapther to '39 trans. They custom made a Hurst style front mount so none of the car was cut.

here's a pic in here.
http://traditionalspeedandkustom.com/thegarage/index.php?topic=753.0

 

Thanks - thats exactly the info I was looking for!

 

Had both the Hurst mount and runs now the chassis engineering mounts.

What you will see more common is the crossmemebr notched for the mechanical fuel pump

Old pic but you get the idea.

Except for the battery in the firewall, that was done in the early 60's....

 

it's a tight fit with a stock firewall in a `35-`36. the valve cover on the right head is about 1/2" from the firewall ,the water pump snout is about 3/4" from the radiator. the radiator leans back so you have lees room than a `40. i build my own mounts for a sbc in a `35-40 ford so i can get the motor exactly where i want it

 

Chassis Engineering mounts will get it in without cutting the firewall if you use the old type breaker point distributor. You can buy an electronic ignition conversion that fits inside the old points distributor. That's what I have on my '38 Ford pickup. Firewall is untouched.

 

The 36 I did the motor was about two business cards from the firewall. It used the chassis Eng. mounts front and their trans mount. Ended up with pusher fans by the time the Z core rad was in there.

 

my never ending '36 has weld in side mounts, it's close to the firewall. i ran into a small problem when i was using a walker 4 core rad, the short pump was almost into it. i put the stock radiator back in and i have more room. Elmo Rodge on here has a '36 with a 283 running WITH the stock flex fan (all WITHOUT touching the firewall)........that's what i'm aiming for .

wait......there's other pages out there besides the hamb ?!?!?!?!

 

hmmm, pics vanished......

 

I had the opposite problem, with a re-cored 36 Rad I did not have enough room for a fan, so I ran an electric on the front of the rad, changed to a Walker Cobra and can run a 14 mech fan, which so far works better than the electric.

It is tight anyway you look at it...

 

i think my motor is just a bit farther back than 1oldtimers, i have room for a 15" fan with a Walker Z-line radiator

 

That looks similar to mine...

 

I had a SBC in my 35, the only issue was had to pusher fan in from of the radiator.
Duane.

 

hmm mine is about 1/2 to 3/4 from the wall on pass side.....maybe i'll move it back a little more and get the right angle on the rad. could also be my jack-up body panels...... the first pic is with a long pump and the rad was not attached to the rods.

 

Not a problem with the Chassis Eng. motor mounts. If you run a walker rad. you'll have to run a pusher fan, and as stated earlier if you want to run a mech. fuel pump the front crossmember will have to be notched.

 

Chassis engineering mount worked perfect for me

 

have the same problem with the fan ,have to run a electric it works.
would have been better cutting the firewall. and mechanical fan.

 

Here is mine with the chassis eng mounts and a walker rad and 14 inch mech fan

 

My 36 has a 283 and my waterpump went out , when i got the new one it was to long. After scratching my head for a while i figured out that they had pressed the shaft further into the pump. So we took the rear cover off put a socket in the press and pushed the fan flange down to about an 1/8" from the face of the pump. Its still close but clears the stock rad.

 

how long are your radiator strut bars, my radiator seems to be leaning back more. i did notch the crossmember for the mech pump.

 

I used C/E mounts in mine and a walker z-line rad, there was NO way a mechanical fan was gonna fit so a pusher is in front of the rad. The radiator leans back too far. The odd thing is that I did not have to notch the crossmember for the fuel pump. I used a holley pump that you can turn the bottom on and it has about 3/4 inch of clearance , i even checked to make sure it didnt hit when the motor torqued and all is good. Although in hind sight, I should have cut the firewall and put a pontiac in there like I had originally planned. Oh well, maybe next time . Mitch

 

Wow - great info - Thanks all.

 

Do you have the radiator mounted in the 1st or 2nd set of holes?, first being closest to the front second closer to the firewall.

 

I too used the CE engine and trans mounts...The dist only cleared by about a quarter inch... This is in a `40 ford coupe..

The fuel pump also hit so I had to cut the crossmember for clearance.

I also had no clearance for a waterpump mounted fan...So I used a 12 volt puller.

 

My Dad's 3 window has a 305 and I don't think the firewall is cut. I've never really looked as it's hard to see around the ginormous battery box and brake booster on either side from the previous owner.

 

i tried both, but with the sheetmetal on it only fits in the 2nd hole. also the original radiator has angled fins so the horn panels won't hit it.

 

I ran a SBC with an adapter in my 36 touring sedan behind the stock 36 radiator running a short water pump and a stock Chevy mechanical fan. No firewall interference. Hurst mount and electric fuel pump. You just need to find the right spot. The 36 trans and Hurst mounts did all the locating for me. It will fit.

 

This is mentioned a couple of times above, but it is worth repeating. 35-36 RADIATORS LEAN BACK, so there is less room than later models that share essentially the same chassis (i.e., through 1940). MOCK UP! (mock it up or fuck it up is my motto) Be sure the whole shebang fits together and that all your sheet metal lines up. It's also nice to be able to service things under the hood without having to disassemble things. You'll like your fan better if it's behind the radiator. If you find that things don't fit, or are too tight, just bite the bullet and make a small, tasteful, inconspicuous divot in the firewall. Some may criticize the divot, but you'll be happier. Good luck with your project.

 

Anyone have links to the motor mounts and radiators everyone is talking about? Please?

 

http://www.chassisengineeringinc.com/
They make bolt in chevy motor mounts for 35-40 Fords

Pete and Jakes does as well.
http://www.peteandjakes.com/parts/3548/35_motormounts2.htm

My radiator is a walker and the best price I found was at macsautoparts.com