Hope this works! My truck, a 1962 Chevy c10, 235 CID, 3 speed trans, still running points. Everything seems to be original, I have not changed anything and by what I've read, its the original motor/trans. As my newbee thread reads, I'm a "internet mechanic", I'll search for related problems/solutions and then go out to my truck and try 'em! Well 2 questions..... 1. Theres a grinding noise coming from the starter and or trans, I dont think the starter needs to be shimmed cause its not a new starter it started doing this noise about a month ago. After a couple of tries it will start , but when the truck dies out, it will do this! Sometimes it will just grind and not start at all! I thought it could be a week battery not giving enough juice to the starter BUT I just installed a fresh battery, the problems persisted. I taped the noise, its on youtube here's the link..hope it works!(if you cant see the link, please go to youtube and type in "grinding transmission" i think its the second vid 1962 chevy c10 thanx) 2. As stated before the truck ran, BUT I let it sit for about over a month THEN after starting it, it would just die out. I have to keep on the gas pedal to keep it running..but no matter how warmed up it gets, release the pedal and it stumbles the dies out! The carb is the original Rochester 1bbl, I tried carb cleaner but nothing...I thought it could be the fuel pump but it is getting gas, except when I release the pedal! Could it be the carb need rebuilding, or replacing?!?!? Thanx in advance for any input!
I was drawn to your post cuz I have a C-10 too but dude, you have to be a little more comprehensible. You went from grinding trans to carb rebuild. We can help if we have resonably stated symptoms.
it's just doing the grinding when you are trying to start it with the clutch in?? it's prob not the trans. i had a starter that wouldn't punch in the starting gear far enough. you could see the wear on the front of the ring gear as it missed it on occasion. in that case shiming won't help. the carb would be the best bet on the dying i would say. points/ timing/ plugs might be next. heck it could be several things like bad/ old gas. sitting isn't good. good luck, nothing wrong with being a "inner net mechanic"- lots on them on the internet.
i guess i wasnt too specific, it two totally different symptoms...the grinding and the engine stalling/dying out they are both happening at the same time and to save posting space I thought i would post both questions at the same time.
hey hoggyrubber, it does it when regardless if the clutch is in or out! did you check out the youtube vid? as far as the dying out, I changed out the sparkplugs (gapped to .035), wires, re-gapped the points(.019) BUT did not change them out...do you think I should change 'em out? including the condensor? oh I did change out the coil aswell!
i am no expert on anything. i watch the video. sounds like it's totally the starter. like it's not engaging the ring gear on the flywheel or not engaging at all. it is prob 2 unrealted issues. the engine prob dies cause off carb issues then won't start cause of starter issue. you can take starter of and get it tested or crawl under and see if it is just missing ring gear. then you can work on the tune up. good luck
I agree that it's very very unlikely that these 2 issues are related. You starter either developed problems with the drive or you have areas on the ringgear with stripped teeth. You have to pull the starter and give things a look over. You can do a crude test by putting power to the starter on the ground with jumper cables and jabbing a piece of wood in the drive to simulate load. If the truck ran well before the month it was parked -I mean daily and consistantly-and it runs smooth and strong now (when you can get it started) but just won't idle you probably have dirt in the carb effecting the idle circuit. A quicky thing you can try is: with the engine running at about 1500 - 2000 rpm, momentarily smother the mouth of the carb with the palm of your hand a few times. This might pull the blockage out of the idle passage. Otherwise it will have to be removed and cleaned, not just carb cleaner in the gas tank. The starter is job 1.
Will do guys, thanx for the input and I will keep yall posted! I'll take pix of the problem if I see any(starter related) and post 'em up aswell, dont wanna call the mechanic if its a simple unbolt and bolt back up job...but if need be I will, to get the truck up and runnin' and thanx again!
if it was me i would take the starter off and get it teasted, rule that out. it's free and a easy job. if it's ok i would put it on and leave the inspection plate off the bell housing, make sure it's in neutral and the clutch is in, have someone bump over the starter, watch to see it it the starter gear is going it to contact the ring gear on the flywheel. if it goes in too far it need shimed, if not far enough you might try to check the shaft it slides on. i would just change the starter, but i don't know how high they are for a 235. before i just mentioned the clutch because if the clutch is in there's no way it could be the trans grinding. sitting is hard on the whole thing but worse on the carb. the rochester is a pretty easy rebuild but you might just check into getting a rebuilt one if they are cheap enough. just to have someone look at it and tell you it needs a carb will cost more than the carb. of course you can't follow this logic on everything or you buy a bunch of parts you don't need. whatever it is you will learn about it and never have to go thru it again. good luck, hr
First that style starter does NOT use shims,they bolt horozontaly to the bellhousing not the block. Carb issue sounds like dirt in the idle circut. If you have a air supply pull the idle mixture screw out and blow into that hole. That may do a quick fix otherwise time to pull carb.
thanx hr, I'll be pulling the starter this weekend to check it, also check for any broken/marred teeth on the starter/and or flywheel! hey JohnEvans thanx for the advise on the shimming and the carb issues...can i use some of the compressed air in a can? you know the one the sell at the computer stores?!?!? thanx!
sometimes when a starter gives me an attitude i grind it with the motor reved up, it knocks any dust out of it, it seems to work soo
All right yall... the culprit for the grinding was the STARTER!! I just bought a new one along with the selonoid from NAPA and a fresh battery. (apparently the starter was soo weak that it would not engage fully, therefore the grinding action!) The now for the second issue of not being able keep the truck ideling...REBUILT the carburator..not a complete rebuilt but replaced the gaskets cleaned out the gunk put back together and EUREKA!! I'm a happy camper thax to everyone that chimed in with ideas!! Hopes this posting save fustration for others...Peace!
YEP!!!! the only bad thing NOW is that the shifter is "hanging" up??? Like when I go from 1st to 2nd, it's really hard!!! It's been switched to the floor with a Hurst 3 speed shifter...sooo any suggestions guys?!?! Thanx in advance!
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