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Salt Flat style Headers lets see 'em

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Choppa Hanee, Apr 5, 2009.

  1. gcrod
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    Made with u bends and cones
     
  2. striper
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    This is what happens


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  3. lowphat53
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    My headers are thermal-coated with a cermakrome finish. Something like nickel I guess. They polish out to a really nice shine if you stay on top of them. They are shiny no matter what, but I like for them to look as good as possible. Thanks for the comment. Matt builds an awesome product!
     
  4. VA HAMB
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    Hey Jay, Cool Coupe!
     
  5. All the photos of Lakes headers with the straight pipes off the head look cheap and done quick, with no thought to design let alone exhaust flow.
    The devil's in the details, and for quality designed headers, all the head pipes need to have as close to the same arc.
    One curved and three straight just is poor design, no matter how well they fit, how nice the welds are or how trick the coating is.
     
  6. Roadsterpu
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  7. InDaShop
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    does this count?

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    The very large black circle just belwo and right of center is the tailpipe.
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  8. 4-pot
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    I built these out of stainless.
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  9. 61cad
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    Thanks Todd!

    It SHOULD make an apperance at the SHOWDOWN this year.

    Keeping my fingers crossed!
     
  10. Striper...those pipes are a thing of beauty!!!! Especially cause they are attached to a nailhead:rolleyes:
     
  11. lockwoodkustoms
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    Well I am not sure that they are nice as everyone elses but they are the first pair I made with help from my 8 yr old son :D and then we had them nickle plated...........not sure how well it will hold up but they look ok now.
     

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  12. A Rodder
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    Here is mine. They are a speedway kit. Painted with VHT. I don't care for the standard slope to the ground angle so I went up with them angled upward, kind of old fighter plane looking. Kind of a different look. I also didn't want to drill a down pipe hole thru the fender / running board apron so I tucked some down pipes back down into the engine compartment and out the back thru gl***packs. What you guys think?
     

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  13. A rodder....I think they look real good. How long have you had that VHT paint on there? It's looks to be holding up nicely.
     
  14. attitudor
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    My stainless set.

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  15. A Rodder
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    They have been on since december or so. Probably miles are around 500 or so. My shop is only 2 miles from the house so not a lot of miles but they have many heat cycles on them. They seem to hold up good. I figure if I repaint them annually that may be ok. But so far they look good. I put about 5k on it last year. They have a WHITE and an off white. The shop I got the paint from said it was only in white but when I got the can it shows an off white ivory as well. My preference was the ivory but once it burns in it isn't to white. Initially it is as white as snow.
     
  16. Skirv
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    A little different than what most folks are showing. I made mine run under the frame rail.

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  17. hotroddon
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    Real nice car! I like it! not lakes headers like OP asked for, but damn that's a nice ride!
     
  18. hotroddon
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    Nope, doesn't count as lakes headers - but beautiful bundle of snakes leading to the turbo!
    Is that a DFV?
     
  19. A lot of the pictures I've looked at over the past few years have pipes that resemble this or stay under the car, but visible from a 30 foot away side view. The pipes usually stopped at the center of the door or at the rear door line. I don't have a pic to post. I think what I'm trying to describe is a cl***ic look for an older lakes or salt car. I think the pipes where kept under the car for air flow instead of sending another air disturbance outside of an already non-aerodynamic body style.
    Nice car!
     
  20. tfee
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    I did these, they are partially inspired by salt flat headers and in part by the WWI Liberty engine. I say stir it up a bit.[​IMG]
     
  21. Kevin Lee
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    That exhaust rules. I understand it may not be exactly what he asked for, but I think the big megaphone style exhaust is a more recent thing that has somehow been grandfathered into "traditional hot rodding".

    Yeah, I know the style came from using a 36/37 driveshaft and there were a few cars with headers built like this, but I guess I consider "salt flat style" something else completely.

    And lot's of cool pics on this thread either way.
     
  22. Hot Rod Michelle
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    That is really nice. What CID is the hemi?
     
  23. Skirv
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    Thanks.....392 Chrysler.
     
  24. A Rodder
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    that is a very nice 32
     
  25. This is what I am talking about....something different. I like it.
    I am waiting on my turn-outs from JEGS. I was inspired over the weekend with some motorcycle exhausts, A little speedway kit, turnouts from JEGS and Paul Yaffe and we will see how it all turns out.

    I want to thank all the guys for posting on this thread, You have been a big inspiration to me....lets keep it going!!:D
     
  26. friggin kick *** coupe!!!!
     
  27. hotroddon
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    I agree that the style that many of us now call Salt Flat Headers or Lakesters (or even Limefires) have morphed away a bit from the original torque tube design, but they did exist in the early days and really are traditional even if now a little more exaggerated.
    Also the exhaust on that Hemi is not headers at all - just manifolds with an interesting exhaust pipe. I like it too, just not headers as the OP asked for.
     
  28. Skirv
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    Yes correct hotroddon. Just plain old manifolds with some pipes I made. I realize that it wasn't exactly what he asked for in as much as he wanted what are known as lakes style headers, but I was just showing him something a little different. I copied the idea for those pipes from a photo of a legit 50's salt flats coupe that's in the Kellogg Collection. The photo is protected so I couldn't copy it to here but here's a link to the website. The car is a black and red coupe a little over half way down and to the right in the Bonneville section. http://www.kelloggautoarchives.com/gallery.html
     
  29. Hotrod_garage
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    Well they are not lakes style and I don't know how to post pics, but I built a set of roadster headers for a 500 Caddy in my 38 Dodge. I could have bought a set from sanderson but they wanted $850 just for the headers and I had about $300 into the whole system including the new side pipes. if you want pics I could email them.
     
  30. zibo
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    I'm with RV on this one.
    Exhaust is like water in its flow pattern.
    Those straight tubes shoot the exhaust square into the opposite side of the collector,
    creating more turbulence than flow, even though it is exiting.
    If you paint or chrome these you'll get an obvious burn mark where it hits.
    (my first set was like that, but the "primary" tubes were pointed back at least)
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    These were my 24hr before the show set.
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    the front tubes were ugly.
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    Each tube to collector hole is huge, probably twice the tube area,
    and they are kinda pointed rearward as well.
    These were LOUD, and had a real deep rhythm to them at higher RPM.
    (the pickup-ones above are definitely restricted sounding in comparison, and its a bigger engine)
    The flow on these swirled, like a gun barrel, i had some string taped to the ends and it twisted.
    The idea is to have the least friction, and I think this style sped up that flow.
    I'll definitely experiment more with this design.

    This is the minimum you need to do for good flow.
    Try to duck-bill the tube-collector joint,
    so the exhaust is pushed rearward.
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    These aren't finished yet but the duck-bill idea is common.

    Most important is don't rush them,
    it takes a long time to fit and do it right.

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    Good luck

    TP
     
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