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Your testicles are jammed right up against the rearend...

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by monsterflake, Apr 11, 2009.

  1. Plowboy
    Joined: Nov 8, 2002
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    Conder, you need to come out and experience the drags with the St. Louis crew, then you will understand that no man's balls are left unattended in our group. ha ha ha

    Whatever happened to the one video from the pit side that showed the whole wipeout then Little Mike and I pulling up to hook him up and drag him off? It was cl***ic.
     
  2. Hey guys,,,not every FED drivers has testes to place against that housing. Gretchen drives the GizzleHopper and she ain't got none so be nice.

    Brin Foxe is indeed a badd ***. Sure hope he is at the HAMBs this year. We can cackle together at the motel.
     
  3. HOTTRODZZ
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    Rear gear explosions are rare in a car that light.

    Even when you do break or strip a gear it almost always stays in the housing.

    Damage & death - in early FMD'S were from the complete housing breaking loose from the ch***is vert's & spinning into the driver - some pretty big names lost there parts.

    Before anti rotation specs - and before minimum fastener size & number, In the 60's - with many builders being well - reckless with there ( make it as light as possable ideas ) There were Top Fuel ch***is built that had the rear end atached to the ch***is with only 4 3/8 bolts - and to make things worse, the bolts ran through linners of just .058 wall - when you would tork up the bolts - they would crush the linner tubes instead of streching & becoming a proper fastener.

    One more thing - If I was The Drag Racing God - ALL late model T/F - T/AD & fast sportsman dragster drivers would HAVE to license in a FMD before they could license in a late model rear engine car.....you really learn how to drive with the engine up front.
     
  4. Daddyfink
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    Rich Guasco was badly injured in a FED when the rear end broke loose.

    Yes, Brian has Br*** Cajones and I heard them clang when the nose came down! OUCH!
     
  5. deadgearhead
    Joined: Mar 14, 2009
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    I would've puked my balls out.
     
  6. damnfingers
    Joined: Sep 22, 2006
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    Who was the **** in the shorts and black socks?
     
  7. monsterflake
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    that's how these hipster kids roll nowadays...
     
  8. KING CHASSIS
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    He is a good friend of mine named JJ. Now that I have answered your question. Post a picture of yourself so we can critique , judge and stereotype you. Smart ***.
     
  9. lostforawhile
    Joined: Mar 23, 2008
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    you mean there's something wrong with black socks and shorts? I've been out of fashion since i started dressing myself as a little kid. Oh well. :D
     
  10. Conder
    Joined: Jan 16, 2005
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    Conder

    All I know is, someone from St. Louis gave me an opportunity to write about Brian's and my nuts. ****in' "A" St. Louis!
     
  11. yoyodyne
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    I haven't seen it all, and don't know it all, but I've only seen one instance of something coming out the back of a rear end, and that was a small chunk that shot through an aluminum Moroso cover on a Dana 60, made a hole about 3/8" diameter near the top. I doubt it would take much to punch through an aluminum cover, the same force wouldn't faze a steel housing.

    Here's a photo of what happened in my FED, broke the ring gear, never even scratched the inside of the housing -
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    I thought the anti rotation brace requirements were to keep the pinion from coming up until I heard about the accident a very famous west coast team experienced. Read an account from an eyewitness that the clutch blew and cut the car in half at the firewall. That locked the rear somehow from the driveline being damaged. The rear spun downward and completely around, pushing the driver up out of the cage. The cage and rear wheels rolled down the track with the driver sticking up out of the cage, quote - "like a rag stuck in a bowling ball. I couldn't understand why he was trying to get out of the car while it was moving". The driver didn't live long. Gives me chills to think about it.

    Put a strong pinion anti rotation device in your car!
     
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  12. buzzard
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    That story and that video, and you're stuck noticing what some dude is wearing? I think you may have missed the point by a couple of miles.
     
  13. stlouisgasser
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    The ***le to this thread made me wince and I went out to the garage and dug out this lil' piece of my hot rod history. This happened in one of my Chevy II street cars back in the Eighties, ironically just a coupla' miles from Brian's house. Just try to imagine your legs wrapped around the axle tubes and your "family jewels" making the acquaintance of this hot, lonely spider gear. I tell 'ya, it took some serious force to do this! I was only 17 and remember looking under the car thinking "I don't know what that is, but it looks serious." Anyway, one look at this, and you realize why they don't put 10-bolts in FED's.
     
  14. stlouisgasser
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    Here's the photos!
     

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  15. very true...that particular pilot was a true one shot down in his prime....Anti rotation is really the main concern when it comes to rear ends in front engine cars....and their have been multiple occasions to prove so...its funny though to think back on "the norm" that was Top Fuel racing up until 1971 or so....pure br*** between the legs....

    T. Hilton
     
  16. Conder
    Joined: Jan 16, 2005
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    Conder

    !#$%!

    There were some comments made on another thread that alluded to my stuff being unsafe. As you've read, I love my nuts. I spent BANK to protect them, and if any of you are planning an F.E.D. try putting some money here...

    *Currie sells a Hydroformed housing. It's made the same way a blowproof bellhousing is made and it's very thick steel.

    *Pete Ogden used this housing when building my rear ends, plus gusseted inside where the axle tubes run into the housing. THICK mounting flanges are welded 360 degrees and the uprights carrying the rear are super thick wall with slip joints inserted and rosebud welded into the upper and lower hoops, where the uprights meet the frame. 4 7/16" aircraft bolts per side bolt it in, with thick wall diagonals and an 1/8th" thick anti-rotation plate.

    *They use MW Top Alcohol 91/2" Aluminum center sections, floaters and brakes.

    Ogden was protecting me the best he could, not just there, but EVERYWHERE on that ch***is. Ain't nothin' wrong with spendin' money for the right !@#$!!

    A couple more things (had to put my kids to bed)...

    I've personally worked with Brian Fox, and he knows what he's doing. His car is solid and so is he. The rails back in the day ground a lot of folks up due to a number of things, but most of it can be traced back to huge risks being taken to be more compe***ive, save time and money or simply the honest lack of yet to be discovered knowledge. Thin wall tubing, hollowing out bolts, lack of gussets or using worn out parts...Aside from some street cars I've seen running I don't think I've ever seen a ****ty current NHRA racecar. Especially a ****ty FAST one.

    These fantastic cars have been gone for over 4 decades. One thing is absolutely for sure...There is absolutely NO reason why a beautiful mid-sixties fueler can't be built today as safe and fast as any "current" front engine car. Or even a rear engined car for that matter. Nobody uses muffler tubing anymore!
     
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  17. oldmuleskinner
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    that is a scary first run. Glad it was ONLY scary
     
  18. 29bowtie
    Joined: Nov 14, 2006
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    Yes, they use them in Dragboat racing to keep you from getting a high speed enema if you depart the boat, since the parachute life jacket puts you in the water feet first! They call them skid pants.Security Safety Products is one supplier.
     
  19. I get asked almost everyday about sitting against the dif in my FED. Frankly i dont even think about it. There is no vibration no sound no senstation. People have been doing it for 50 years without trouble. Nice rail though have fun
     
  20. yoyodyne
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    Does that mean you slid a piece of tubing up into your frame rail to the point where your upright intersects the frame rail? What wall thickness are the rails and the inserts? Have any construction photos of that? Thanks!
     
  21. Van Dutch
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    Your lilly white socks would get turned black anyway from the rubber. Might as well go with the black on the track.:)
     
  22. lentz automotive
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    when in doubt - throttle out. lol
     
  23. Conder
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    Conder

    I don't know if you can see anything in these, but it's what I have right now... The shoulder hoops are 1 size larger in o.d. to what the NHRA called for in 2000. The wall thickness is twice as thick. Extra tubing was inserted and rosebud welded inside this intersect area (required) where the upper and lower hoops meet the frame tubing. The area of frame tubing where the uprights holding the rear end meet it is larger in o.d. and twice as thick in wall. Sorry I can't remember the exact numbers, (it's been a while and the cars are too far away to check quick.) If you really need 'em I can get 'em, otherwise check a 2000 rule book and then add 2.

    The forward hoop of the cage itself was meant to also strengthen this area as well as fit inside a 'chute tail. As a sidenote, I just saw a brand new rear engine Top Alcohol ch***is from Hadman, and some of the welds on it looked like multiple p***es. These guys aren't fooling around now that the big cars are starting to come apart in the lights. This ch***is looked like skys****er work.
     

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  24. Jersey Meathook
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    They're known as 909ers. ;)
     
  25. OK, all you guys with cold balls against hot rear ends, it's time to step up and get on board with a donation. Just think of that brave kid who faced a lot more than hot testicles.
     
  26. Autojunkie
    Joined: Jul 27, 2005
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    I'll say it once again... I think the St. Louis area water supply is tainted with acid becasue all the crazy f'ers come from that part of the country.

    Man do I miss hanging with you guys! :)

    Hopefully I can make it out to see you guys at the drags for once.
     
  27. budssuperpro
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    Thats kool ,if you haft to think about it your too late..

     
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  28. lostforawhile
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    but are the skids on the inside or the outside?
     
  29. Appleseed
    Joined: Feb 21, 2005
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    Scroll down to the bottom and read the Tags.

    "Donuts"

    "***ual Abuse"

    "Testicles"


    He he he he he ...
     
  30. KING CHASSIS
    Joined: Aug 28, 2005
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    Yeah, Monsterflake is pretty creative. But not this time. All that stuff is Text Book with us.
     

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