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Any trouble with lakes headers and burns?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by oldrelics, Mar 12, 2009.

  1. oldrelics
    Joined: Apr 7, 2008
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    This has been at the back of my mind for a while;
    Scenerio:

    I pull in to my local show and shine with my fenderless A coupe with lakes style headers -blue hot- I would suspect. Of course (in my dreams anyway) my car gets swarmed by onlookers and of course a small child that has neglectful and careless parents comes over and proceeds to fry themselves on the cones....

    Anybody else worry about this? Do you stand by your car awhile till they cool off so you can warn people?
    What do you do?
     
  2. Its called natural selection, unfortunately its the parents that should be weeded out.
     
  3. Ghost28
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    Usually if there a people around. I would stay close to the car and warn them about the pipes, And loud enough so others will here also. They cool pretty fast. But I agree there are some that have to lean over to check the engine as soon as you pull in. Especially running a twin 4 hemi motor. And it worries me. But 9 times out of 10 it takes care of itself, and usually you can see the problem before it happens just by watching the people...GHOST
     
  4. Rags To Richs
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    Such an odd though to see in print.....

    I had this happen.... I pulled into a local drive-in burger joint for a bite to eat and as Im getting out of I see a family coming out the door.... The father points to my car my car an open header, on the ground T bucket all of a sudden their little girl breaks into a run... I suspect that she was probably about 3-4 years old... I see the kids old man standing there licking an ice cream cone and not even attempting to go after the little girl.... Now she is within about 6 feet of the pipes and I ran and grabbed the kid under her arms and sweeped her off her feet.... Now she is starteled and starts to cry.... The kids old man starts looking at me like I'm nuts and he thought that I was mad and that I stopped the kid from touching the my car....

    Obviously he was more concerned about his ice cream cone than he was about his kid..... Truthfully I felt like smacking the kids old man for being so stupid at to let a kid run in the parking lot with all the street rods.... Mine was not the only car in the lot with outside pipes... I put the kid down on the ground turned her to her father and just walked away shaking my head.....

    It takes all kinds to make the world go round.... I didnt leave my car until the pipes cooled down.... Especially at cruise nights.....
     
  5. Man, I remember burning my calf on the side pipes on my dad's LT-1 Vette. You learn fast how to get out of one like that. I was looking at my lakes pipes just the other day thinking the same thing. When it's finally done I'll defiantly be staying with the car until they cool down.
     
  6. 327-365hp
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    They actually make an anouncement at one of the cruise nights I go to, to stay with your car until the pipes cool off. So obviously the promoter was threatened with a lawsuit. Parents should be more responsable and keep the brats away from the cars and bikes. Or learn your lesson the hard way like the rest of us.
     
  7. Sinister
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    In 1973 (I was 4 yrs old) when my dad took the dune buggy around the block after some much needed work, I ran into the shop as he backed in and slipped on the door mat grabbing the stinger with my right hand.....

    It wasn't long after that I learned why he called side pipes on his 'vette "ankle burners"


    where is my helmet?
     
  8. Von Rigg Fink
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    weeds out those that learn and those that should have been kept at home.
     
  9. Dirtynails
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    This is a lot more serious than you think,and not only because of the insurance costs and the thought of law suits. A burn from an exhaust can be fatal . With the present economic crises a lot of folks cannot afford proper medical care and sepsis is a common cause of death following the most simple of burns.
    Here is an interesting link..
    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=131730#5
    The most famous example is Sir Henry Birkin,On the left with Sir Malcom Campbell, who burnt his arm on the exhaust of his new Maserati 3L in may 1933 and died from sepsis on the 22 June 1933 after the wound became infected.
    [​IMG]
     
  10. Von Rigg Fink
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    motorcycles have had open exhaust on them from the inception..

    we dont need any more government regulations tellin us what to do..

    brains people..we were born with them on purpose..wtf is going on in this world..

    next is a freaking safelty belt in your dam shower!
     
  11. oldebob
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    Times have changed. Maybe there's some one on here that would really know the answer to this. There are a lot of people out there looking at your car minus the good sense God gave them, and unfortunately they usually have a kid or a dog with them.
     
  12. DRUGASM
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    i gotta admit i've been "that guy" before. i bought a bolt/screw on chrome tip for my high school car to dress it up a little bit. well it turned in a way i didnt like after bolting it on and driving around the block. sho nuff my dumbass reached down, grabbed it and tried to spin it back the way i had it.

    only did that once.
     
  13. Ghost28
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    Fact of the matter is if were gonna run our cars with any type of danger exposed. We should be the one to police the situation until the danger has passed. Especially if we stop at any location where the general public has access to our cars. Not everyone thinks along the same lines as us. And if we are building our cars with our safety in mind. We should also think of others safety as well. If not we risk the loss of support of the general public. And there voice can sink our little hobby just as well as any goverment official...ghost
     
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  14. cafekid
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    yes when my dad had his 27 roadster we built a set of lakes headers and seems like everywhere we went in that car someone had to run up look at the car the second it was shut off..... also my dad was getting out of the car one day and lost his balance , well he fell forward and grabbed for something to stop him. that something was a hot header(car still running)
     
  15. MedicCustoms
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    I also had this happen to me I pulled into a gas station and a guy I know in passing ask how have I been you know just small talk and his littel girl gets out of their truck I see her out of the corner of my eye her dad looking at her as she just reaches out to touch the pipes on my car I tunr and stop her . The guy looks at me and asked why I did that I told him the pipes are hot he looks at me and says shed only touch them once then shed learn. Man was I pissed told him a thing or two and left. Haven't seen or heard from him sence hope I don't.
     
  16. cb1
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    Simular but funny, two years ago my uncle pulls up on his harley sportser, puts his feet down and shuts it off and starts talking to us. I look over and his tennis shoe is on fire. Riding a harley in tennis shoes, no thats funny..
     
  17. gnichols
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    How about we get some crafty chemist to invent a CHERRY RED ceramic coating that looks a lot like glowing steel, fresh from the smithy's furnace. Think of it as a modern version of the old VHT red header paint. Or perhaps a deep red tint added to the current "chrome" coatings? I always liked VHT red headers. A ceramic version would be cool, in more ways than one - and an instant visual tip that the pipes are hot. Gary
     
  18. well I went to a electric fan thinking that fingers could get lost with that big propeller with no hood

    now got burns to deal with, I went with the lakes headders on the model A :eek:and never thought much about it, well its still in pieces
     
  19. sonny3
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    This reply is probably to late but thanks for the heads up. I never gave my lake pipes much thought but will keep a eye out for trouble in the form of out of controlled rugrats.
     
  20. I was going to call you a pussy and a worry wort but I have a better reply. Your line of thinking is part of the PROBLEM in the world........NOT THE SOLUTION!!!!!!!!! That and the fact that you are citing a 1933 freakin case of a burn and spouting how sepsis kills like the fuckin plague. Then to add to your "present econimic crisis" BS.........I spent 24 hours at the ER with my little boy, you know what? None of the poor folks got shot in the head because they were less worthy!:eek::rolleyes: Take your beliefs over to some feel good website, we need less PC and more straight talkers these days.

    Sorry Ryan, that is my new kinder, gentler self;)

    Back to the Original question. Dont overthink and worry to much, just use common sense. The paperboy may just leave Saturdays edition on your hot BBQ grill and burn your house down........time for motion sensors around the yard!
     
  21. BELLM
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    Reminds me of the little boy that walked into a blacksmith shop, blacksmith had just taken a red-hot horseshoe off the forge. Kid picked it up, dropped it quickly. Blacksmith, laughing, says "Whats the matter kid, burn your hand?" Kid says "Nope, just doesn't take me long to look at a horseshoe!".
     
  22. I won't speak about the stupid society part of this argument, but will from first hand experience instead. When I was about 2-3 years old I burned both of my hands on the hot stacks of a semi (another story I won't go into) and as a result have a lot of scar tissue on both of my hands. It's pretty faded, but the problem comes from the fact that scar tissue does not sweat very well which causes some other problems. I guess my thing is this, if an adult isn't smart enough to know it's hot fine...let them learn the hard way. But lets keep an eye out for the little ones who like the "shiney stuff."
     
  23. 1950ChevySuburban
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    I keep a bottle of lavender oil handy in my toolbox. Takes the heat right out of the burn and heals quick!

    We had a genuine AC Cobra in the shop one day, I was the only one who didn't burn themselves on it. The other guys learned about the lavender.
     
  24. Von Rigg Fink
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    I knew I liked T man for a reason..I just now figured out why..
    Right on man!~
     
  25. 4dFord/SC
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    “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” - Mark Twain
     
  26. Dreddybear
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    My hood ornament is a live Gorilla, do you think that will be a problem?:confused:
     
  27. Dick Dake
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    +1 Tman. If you get injured and don't go to the doctor and die, tough shit. One less idiot I have to deal with.
     
  28. Kevin Lee
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    Fuckin' Gorillas. :)

    I had considered running pipes like the Calori roadster on my modified. But the thought of there even being a possibility of my daughter getting branded by my stupid exhaust made me feel sick, so I kept it under the car.
     
  29. ramaro
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    My ex-girlfriend got burned by my lake pipe on the back of her calf while she was getting out. She still has one hell of a scar.
     
  30. Brewton
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    Hell, I've burned myself a couple of times on my own lakes headers - I guess I'll sue myself! Seriously, stand around for a while if it makes you feel better....but you can't prevent everything. It's sad that we even have to think about it.
     

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