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just got model a cab and have some q's

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  1. lazy j
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    I came across some luck and was able to get this model a pickup cab. I had been lookin for a sedan or pickup cab for a while and just happen to be talkin to my aunt in law and she let me know where one was that actually was the family's but was still on there old property which had been sold around 10 years ago. The new property owners had said at the time to come get it when they could. So i went and got it over the weekend and just trying to figure out some of the details about it -exact year, model, and maybe why there's no back to the cab. The cab looks like it's from the factory with no back, but I'm still learning. Any help is really appreciated! I plan to make it low, loud and fast- maybe using big block ford power. Thanks guys!
     

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  2. propwash
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    could have been a 2dr sedan, perhaps?

    dj
     
  3. Dan1955
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  4. Edelbroke
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    It was probably a sedan converted to a pickup, I had one like it, but mine had the sedan lower sides still attatched.
     
  5. its a 28-29 sedan or coupe. look at the second picture behind the p***enger door you can see where the rear window starts. and trucks had way different doors then the sedans or coupes
     
  6. dirtbag13
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    yep cut down 28-29 sedan or coupe ! popular conversion in the old days to get more gas rations !
     
  7. alchemy
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    It's a 28-29 tudor sedan. Notice the seat mount pegs?

    Look on the upper firewall, left side, near the seam that bolts to the lower half. There should be the car's ***embly date stamped in there if you look close. Sometimes some sandpaper helps.
     
  8. Sedan or coupe. Not PU.
     
  9. pasadenahotrod
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    It IS a cut off 28-29 Tudor sedan as indicated by the front seat mounting pegs in the floor crossmember. Interesting that it has a dispatch pocket under the cowl.
     
  10. Bruce Lancaster
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    The pocket is homemade, though, not either of the factory types. Lokks like an unusually prescient depression era tinsmith made it about right for 2 Dunkin Donut large coffees...mmmmm
     
  11. Edelbroke
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    Here is the one I had, it's a 29' 2dr sedan converted to pick up. There was a 5 inch thick concrete bedliner poured in the back when I got it, They must have been done for traction. [​IMG]
     
  12. lazy j
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    I'm sure someone will happen to have the back half of a sedan just layin around they dont need right! That's a bummer cause i would rather have a sedan but I'll make something work out of it.
     
  13. Mat Thrasher
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    Find a sedan back panel and make a PU out of it. Personaly I think it would look better then a real 28/29 cab. There are little too squared off for my taste.
    Mat
     
  14. budd
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    i'm putting a closed cab pickup back onto a 2 door sedan cowl and doors, it had been converted into a pickup back in the 40's, the back was a mess and so i bought a proper back and i'm in the process of makeing it fit, a 2 door sedan is a little shorter then a pickup so i had to chop the cab corners a little, the belt line is wider on a 2 door so i had up some simple tooling and widened the belt line on the cab corners, the bottom piece of the back was a little rotten so i just choped off what i needed to make it the same hight as the cab corners, the top wood needs to be modified somewhat, and i had to make a filler piece to go above the doors so it would be the same hight as the windshield header, nothing to it.
     

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  15. Pins&Needles
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    Just me but I thought both sedan doors and pick up doors were the same? Or is that only for 30 31?
     
  16. yea the 28-29 doors had another belt line running all the way around the door on the out side. they kinda almost look like a model t door. the 30-31 sedan and pickup doors are almost the same if not identical.
     
  17. lazy j
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    I'm thinkin of cuttin the back of the cab off of a chevy pickup I got some parts off of for my '49 and cut it up and fit the peices and make it work. I had a hell of a time finding this cab so I know I won't be lucky enough to find a cab to cut the back off of, and if I did I would just use that one anyway. I have a lot of fab and welding skills but I don't have anything to put a nice curve to some sheetmetal to make the back panel. Cutting it off of another truck and making it work on mine is what it's all about anyway!
     
  18. id search the for sale adds here first before you did that. the car might look a little bit od with a 49 chevy rear cab section on it, and you wouldnt want to make a r** R** :eek:. i see 28-29 back halves of coupes and sedan every now and then. you should maybe even run a wanted add, they do work
     
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  19. budd
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    i paid $250 for the cab corners and the two upper and lower back pieces, if you have any kind of metal working skills you can just make these parts, i removed a good 2 door back, which is only really the center of the back, and the ****y looking corners, you cant just move the 2 door sedan back forward as it does not line up with your door posts, of course anything can be done, i took the easy way buying the back.
     
  20. lazy j
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    I would really like it to look like a factory cab when I'm done, besides a chop if I decide to go that way. I did actually find the back half of a '26/ '27 model T coupe on Craigslist but I didnt think that would work too well. I do like the idea of doing what Budd did and just buy the peices and making them work but didn't really have the cash for that. I will at least try to find a back half before I do anything drastic.

    I tried to look for the year and model stamp on the firewall but had no luck. Is it stamped into the metal or should there be a tag?
     
  21. Corn Fed
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    Some actually didn't get stamped for some reason. It would be stamped into the metal if there. Look about 1" above the bolting flange, about 2"-3" from the side.
     
  22. lazy j
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    How well would a '30- '31 sedan cab mate up to my cab? Just to open up my options.
     
  23. I saw one that a guy did exactly that on at a show a couple of years ago. Wish I had pictures of it to show you. The guy was a very good body man, and he made it look like it came that way from the factory, using the back portion of a 4 door sedan body brought forward and grafted onto the front portion of a sedan body that was cut off to make a truck. Had a really nice oak stake bed on it. It had way more room in it than a normal closed cab pickup, which worked well for the owner because he was about 6'4" or 6'5".
     
  24. Corn Fed
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    It could be done with some cutting and fitting. But the body lines will be totally wrong. The 30-31 body has 2 small beads, whereas your 28-9 stuff has one wide bead.

    If you really want a PU, and don't mind shortening a sedan, I'd suggest that you sell the 28-9 front parts you have, and take the money and buy a 4 door sedan body to shorten. 4-doors are pretty cheap and you could probably buy one for what cash you get out of your cowl/doors.
     
  25. lazy j
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    I would rather have a sedan over a pickup, but I thought in my situation a pickup cab would be easier to pull off. I'd hate to sell my cab and then never be able to find another one and be stuck with nothing. I'll keep looking for something.
     
  26. lazy j
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    What about a '26-'27 sedan body, how well would that mate up? I'm finding some half bodies but not my year model.
     
  27. Whatever it was it looks solid, you could make a cool pick-up with that. Good luck.
     
  28. 31Apickup
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    They reproduce the full cab corners and the back panels for a 28-29 pickup. You could get those pieces, and adapt them to the sedan front. It'd take some fab work for fitting, etc.
     
  29. lazy j
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    I happen to run across a guy selling a '28-'29 sedan outside of town that had been made into a pickup. They had just cut off the back of the sedan cab and moved it forward. It didn't line up for **** and looked like whoever built it needed to buy a few more welding books! It looked like the back of the sedan cab is not quite as wide as the front. But I did like how it looked if you stand back about 40 feet, and also gives a lot more leg room for those long car show trips. It had a bed that was barely on there. Most would call it a r*t r*d.

    Anyone know how well the body lines of a '27 T lines up with a Model A? I sure dont want mine to turn out like that one.
     
  30. Royalshifter
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    Holy **** look at those cowl lamps!!!!!

     

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