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Disclosure of project prices....

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by mpls|cafe|racer, Jun 6, 2009.

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  1. No, it's no ones damn business if you don't want to share.

    87.5%
  2. Yes, because everyone knows you should.

    12.5%
  1. mpls|cafe|racer
    Joined: Jun 18, 2006
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    The thread on the 3 window that another member picked up got me thinking....

    why is there some at***ude that someone just has to tell anyone who asks what they paid for a project, or they will get **** for it?

    Am I the only one who thinks a buyer and seller have every right to tell everyone else to shut the hell up?

    And since when is keeping what you paid private because you might want to sell something later for a profit a reason to be called a "douche"?

    Just food for thought. So....

    If you pick up a project would you tell everyone what you paid?

    If yes, why?

    If no, why?

    I'm more or less just curious.....
     
  2. mpls|cafe|racer
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    Oh, my vote is no. It's no ones damn business if I don't want to disclose what I paid.
     
  3. RichG
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    I don't care what you pay for something, just don't do the ambiguous "I got a Grrrrreattt deal" b.s. if you're not going to put the price in there too. That's just my opinion.
     
  4. Revhead
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    I don't think they should get **** for it if they want it a secret, but I also don't understand why it is such a big deal. Once someone buys it and wants to flip it it shouldn't matter what the old price was. the new price is what it is. I bought a car and found the previous papers in it that said it was bought for $200. I paid $4500. I 'm sure some work was done between the time I got it, but not $4300 worth, but so what. People need to make a profit, people need to make money to live, everyone can't get the buddy price or we'd all be broke.
     
  5. racer756
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    Exactly.

    Dont come on here t******* your chest about getting a killer deal on some car or project if you are going to be a TOOL and string everyone along and not share.

    If you are proud of the project, by all means show it, but I would not boast about the deal unless I was willing to share.

    my .02:D
     
  6. thunderbirdesq
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    It's your car, why the hell would you have an obligation to tell someone what you paid for it. I think it's interesting to know, and unless the seller asked me not to disclose the price, I would have no problem letting the cat out of the bag. But if someone doesn't want to volunteer that info... that's their business and you should respect it, not give them **** and h***le them about it.
     
  7. coolstuff
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    its all in the eye of the beholder - when I showed my friends back in CA the car I got - they thought I stole it.........
    when I show my pals here in the midwest - they think I got ****d!

    ha

    so it's all perspective and what you are into - bottom line - as long as YOU are happy with what you paid - who cares?

    I am sure the guy that paid over $5 million for the Super Snake Cobra thinks he got the greatest deal in the world..........
     
  8. I think its good to keep on the value of things so don't get me wrong but if I tell you what I paid for something its a curtesy not because I have to.

    If you want to keep up on value a good place is the cl***ifieds. Watch them a bit you'll see what stuff is going for then add about 10% for out in the other world.

    That said my initial cost on the Stude in my garage was about zero I traded another project that I had almost nuthing invested in. But it wouldn't have happened at all aside from the fact that there are some especially generous HAMBers out there. Most of them old timers I'm ashamed to say. But times will change once again and we will become the community we once were.

    Gawd I'm preaching here, can anyone give me an AMEN.

    Sorry for the lecture fellas.

    carry on.
     
  9. Little Wing
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    I think when you ask "what is it worth and ask for peoples imput,,you are then including them,,so to get the ( whatever it is ) and then not say after asking for help is kinda lame.

    Also to post a car you know 1/2 the world wants and do as was said above ,,you need to much attention.

    far as projects go,,i see no need to share all the details bout everything you find out just missed out on

    actually less said the better cause you never know who will read it,,,lil privacy is a good thing..

    Hell befoe the computer did you runn all over the place telling people about a find you did'nt get yet??

    or once you got it making sure everyone for 4 counties knew you had it ?

    If I can afford it ( and sometimes how bad I want it ) determines what i'll pay,,not 'market value ",,,not what "someone on teh internet says"

    you got your 32 ?? ,,,good shut up and go build it,,,you wanna sing it from the mountain top,,well don't be upset if someone throws a rock
     
  10. James427
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    I think that anyone who buys a car has every right to keep the price private... UNLESS THEY MAKE A BIG DEAL ABOUT THE "PRICE" IN THEIR OWN POST ABOUT THE PRICE, like in a WIW post or a "what would you pay for this" type post. As soon as a buyer makes a post ABOUT the price, all gloves are off. You deserve any and all **** you get for making a big deal about any car's price or value and then not ending the story by telling what the actual price was. If you come on any informed forum (especially as informed as the HAMB) and solicit the combined knowledge of that forum to help you determine the value, then you OWE the people whose wisdom you relied upon to end the speculation and curiosity.
     
  11. Jeem
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    Of course HAMB'rs do not need to disclose price. What you don't seem to get, is the poster of that 3W thread initiated the whole deal by asking about price. He brought it up.
     
  12. An oject's value isn't determined by what you paid for it, it is determined by what someone else is willing to pay for it.
     
  13. 56don
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    I don't think its anyone's business either but if they ask I will tell,its no big deal.I love to hear about how someone got a great car for nearly nothing.I am happy for them.If you pay what you think its worth and you are happy,it doesn't matter what the previous owner paid for it,he might have gotten it free.That is capitalism and that used to be what this country was based on.
     
  14. I really don't get why not to say. Why are you hiding it? If someone asks, why not.
    I paid $800 for my Whippet and $500 for my Hemi. Whats the big deal? I think it was a great deal and I really dont care what others may think. Its cool to know that deals are still out there.
     
  15. 214Gearjammer
    Joined: Jan 22, 2009
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    I agree with James427 about project prices on the HAMB. Like he says, you post it, you reap what you sew!
    But in day to day when someone comes up to me and asks what I gave for or what its worth--I always stop them in their tracks by asking what they gave for theirs. Usually they don't have the same specific vehicle/part and the conversation is over before it starts--no common ground? No need for further BS!
    And oh yeah, Porkn******--AMEN!!
     
  16. deuces94
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    No comment, just here for the good times. I'd still like to get the $360.00 for the other guy to give me those headlights.
     
  17. Jersey Meathook
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    I don't count anybody else's money. Or care.
     
  18. Its no ones business but do not come on the board ask how much should I give, then add insult to the situation by saying I bought it but I don't need to tell you if you were anywhere near what I paid for it. I don't mind when people come on and tell us heres my new project you like it? I expect the price to be left out in those threads. Its just kinda rude to me to ask then leave everyone who offered up their advice/opinion on what to give and how to go about the purchase. I do not think we necessarily needed a poll thread on the matter either though. This will just be pushed off the main page and forgotten long before the next HAMBer puts up another thread of how much? Now I got it, not telling you ****. See it on ebay, craigslist, or the cl***ifieds somewhere then you have an idea of how much I paid for it, NOT.-Weeks

    The controversial thread pshhhhh.
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3993207#post3993207
     
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2009
  19. The37Kid
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    This question predates the HAMB, and was alway considered poor manners to ask in the car hobby. Asking for an opinion on value is one thing, but what someone pays is between the buyer & seller IMO. Market value, paid value, ability to fix value are all different because of location, and personal skill levels. If the new owner of the 3Window wants to let us know the selling price it is his busness not mine.
     
  20. Kilroy
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    Why are there so many threads lately about trying to tell people what they can and can't disclose on the HAMB?

    If you want to tell people what you paid for something, that's your business... If you don't nobody can make you...

    If you want to ask what someone paid for something, that's up to you too... If the guy thinks you're a **** for asking... That's cool too...

    Just let people be and this stuff answers itself...
     
  21. missysdad1
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    A very wise HAMBer once wrote, "Keep all your recipts...but NEVER ADD THEM UP!"

    I say "amen" to that! :D
     
  22. metalshapes
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    I'm going to start a Poll to see how many Drama Threads we should have about the same damn 3W...
     

  23. Mr Shapes,
    Send me a link.

    I thought this was a legitimate question. I guess I just work too much to keep up any more.
     
  24. deuces94
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    Com'on Kilroy, your killing my buzz. But I gotta agree witch ya. It's your ability for objective reasoning and sensible thinking that have made you become an old HAMB'r. Well said IMHO.
     
  25. JohnJoyo
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    It's nobodys business. It is fun to hear about the "smokin deals" people get sometimes. It's up to them if they want to share though.
     
  26. Tony Ray
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    personally I think its no ones bizz but the person who forked the cash out for thier project.. I think alot of this BS is the way the question is being asked..if you come across like hey I bought this,do think I got a great deal..then refuse to give the price..well thats going to make you look like an ***. If your looking for a pat on your back well thats the wrong way to start out.. I mean I like to keep up todate with certain part prices I want or will need to get eventually..just so if I do see them at a swap meet or something I know when its a deal to good to p*** up or to walk away..same with projects.. I might ask, hey what are 50 fords going for these days in good condition..or what will I end up buyin for a few grand if I am looking for such and such.. usually I look to ebay,or other sites to get an idea before I fork out the cash for something.. its nice to have a site with people that are more knowledgable then myself about these cars and parts, that if I need a price, or want to know what to expect I can find the answers relatively soon..but I aint going around wanting to be the swap meet king of super deals.. Im just wanting to know a fair price..
    I just think some of the drama coulda been erased if the posts were worded alittle different and it didnt come across as Im the man bs..
     
  27. doctorZ
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    it really doesn't matter what is paid for anything. i once got a model A for free and then sold it to a buddy for $1000 bucks. he knew that i didn't pay for it, but he also knew it was an incredible deal. he saved a fortune because he was planning on paying a lot more for less of a body, and i was able to make money, albeit less than if i had sold it to a stranger.
    on here, since we are all in different locations, prices are not universal. i can buy a car in Nor*Cal and sell it a few hundred miles south for a profit. that being said, prices fluctuate even more across and country and across the globe.
    ultimately, the only people that should care are the buyer and seller. since it does not affect anybody else, it is none of their business.
    -drZ
     
  28. The Cap'n
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    I vary on if I tell people or not. If it's something I'm keeping for myself I normally don't have any problems disclosing what I paid for such and such. But it's different if it's a car I want to sell and someone asks me...with most people I know the word will get around and I've been asked why can't you come down because you only have X dollars in it? Some people are good at realizing that some cars are meant to be sold to make money, some just think that you should always give them the same deal you got.

    With this saga though, it would have been nice to get a response about a rough price range the 3W was in.
     
  29. A Little Odd
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    Yeah I asked "how much " (I guess I jumped on the bandwagon) on that previous 3W thread that started this one. He posted such thread after he purchased the 3W. He HIMSELF referenced his previous thread that he started asking how much should he pay on his find. I wanted to know out of fun -I did not know if he was holding back or was building up the excitement. I just wanted to know how it turned out but I won't push the issue. A man's business is his own.
     
  30. mpls|cafe|racer
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    This thread isn't about the 3 window :rolleyes:. It's about the **** giving based on someone not posting what they paid.

    Personally I don't agree with this logic that if someone posts up asking for a general value on something that they are thinking of offering on that that ties them into posting what they paid for it when all is said and done, either.

    If I ask the board for that info its not because I want them to be members of the transaction. It's no different than if I reference a NADA book. Lending a helping hand and giving someone some opinions or information on the value of a car does not en***le you to a follow up, nor does it cons***ute your being a **** if they don't follow up.

    Just my .02.





    **And yes, pork, I think this is a relevent post, and its not starting drama. So far people have been very capable of posting their opinions on here without being dramatic, and that's ok.

    I just wanted to feel out why all the sudden there are so many nazi's about this topic on the forums.
     

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