Disclosure of project prices....

The recent **** giving threads have been from takers.

You come to the HAMB and want to know what something is worth. Members give advice and it's taken away.

You return to the HAMB having benefited from said advice. The HAMB asks you to give a little back, to fine tune the aim for the next guy.

Now you don't have to give back. But HAMBrs don't have to let that go quietly either. That's why this place rocks.

 

Or everyone who is looking at a similar car could grow a pair and be man enough to send the guy a PM askin if he'd be comfortable disclosing the price. lol

I wouldn't post mine up on a public forum if I didn't want to, and especially not one where people have been jerks about it.

And that kind of info isn't what the hamb is about.... this isn't a price guide, it's a tech forum about traditional hot rods.

 

Tech and price go hand in hand bud. Wasn't the philosophy to do what you can with what you got or modify what you have to perform better for the least amount?-Weeks

 

Please highlight the part where the philosphy outlines that people should be ****s if someone keeps their finances to themselves.

 

I agree fully. But money is an unfortunate part of this game so there's always gonna be somebody asking.

Price threads rarely do good things on "normal" cars. But when something rarified like a bugatti barn find changes hands, the price threads do have educational value. Double edged sword huh?

You can tell it's early summer. Tech threads are being outnumbered by opinion. We'll swing back shortly.

 

Maybe you can champion the don't ask, don't tell policy on the HAMB for your next thread.-Weeks

 

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you disclose the price, even after asking WIW, there are always going to be at least 10 ***holes that are going to tell you that you overpaid and tell you what is wrong with what you bought, whether you paid $10 or $10,000. If people are insistent on what I paid for something, I always tell them I paid $1,000,000 for whatever it was, they usually get the hint. In the case of the gentleman asking what the 3W was worth, and not disclosing what he paid, it probably means he paid too much.

 

I don't have a problem with someone asking, and I don't have a problem with someone telling.

The issue I was curious about was why it's acceptable to be a jerk and call someone a douche if they don't want to tell it on a public forum?

I've got a pretty good stash of rare parts here and there for bikes and cars, and I would never tell someone what I paid on a public forum.

If someone called and said "I am lookin at one and heard you've got one.... mind if I ask what you paid for it?" I would certainly tell them.


I never said there's a don't ask, don't tell policy, and the insinuation that I did is ridiculous. lol Just that there is no "If you don't tell you deserve all the **** from so and so" policy.

I can see why the guy probably won't be back though, and frankly, I don't blame him.

 

Paid too much or market value is what I already said in the thread before it got axed. 1,000,000$ is a great answer . At least it gives us a bench mark then to go by and there would not be a poll thread such as this the thread would have died quickly after a few good laughs.

I was just ribbing ya mpls/cafe/racer with the last post. Oh yeah they always come back. I like your road warrior quote there also.-Weeks

 

i think its the owners shoice to post what he paid for it, me personally i dont care if someone asks ill tell them

my 65 olds paid 1500 drove it home, BUT also i have wellll over 100 hours of labor alone in it, not to mention others paint materials and what not, and you can bet your *** if i ever sell it it will be sold for alot more than my original purchase price

my 66 f100 traded a great running good condition 92 ford ranger stx 4.0 5 speed 4x4 ext cab with 3 inch lift, AND a rare all original great looking and running 81 honda atc 250r 3 wheeler for it

truck is on the market now and priced to sell but seems people wanna offer garbage or think its not worth what i want for it

 

Are you obliged to reveal the price before or after you have mandatorily disclosed a fully independently audited breakdown of your income, sources of income and personal net worth? Inquiring minds want to know.

 

I gave a $150.00 for a 32 chevy 5w and feel damn good about it.

 

I agree! Giving some back, like telling the price so those curious about such things (most if us) is like saying "thank you". Not telling is like saying "**** you".

 

One last kick to be sure the horse is dead

If somebody asks what it's worth publicly, then won't share what they paid while showing it off, they're being a jerk by withholding knowledge. So I would then be OK with somebody calling them a jerk. They originally asked because knowledge is money when it comes to old cars. Don't hoarde knowledge. That's jerky.

Asking what's it worth publicly is a deal with the devil so be careful trying to acquire a fiddle made of gold!

 

i personaly would only ask someone what they paid for something to know what to look for when i purchase something of the same. im always curious, but if the owner dosent want to disclose, thats their own business. nobody has to tell you anyhting.

 

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one shift, cause I don't think asking what it's worth publically does not obligate you to disclosing the followup, nor does it necessarily mean you are being disrespectful....

 

If I'm close enough to ya ,I'll let ya know ..if I'm not I won't ..PERIOD!

Its no ones business what the hell I paid for anything.....

 

Hi all,
re the above quote, it karma. What you give out you get back tenfold.
This priceless horse is long dead......
cheers bt

 

I think that when a person asks for help with the value of something that they want to buy, and then go on to purchase, they have tacitly invited the participants of the thread into the transaction. It would be natural for those participants to want to know how things turned out, if only to validate their own contributions.

In short, if you don't want people to ask what you pay for something, don't ask them what it is worth. But that's just my opinion

 

I disagree. When they ask you you have the choice to give them information on the value or not.... and if they use that info, they have the choice of wether or not to follow up.

That's why it's out of line to be rude about it.... because it's a choice, not a requirement...

and if you are curious if your information helped, send a PM and maybe you'll get a response.

Like I said, I wouldn't want to disclose in public personally.... but I'd do so privately.

 

Nothing like wasting bandwidth with pointless posts.

Thanks for your time.

FWIW: You're more than welcome to ignore this thread and post in other threads if you can post up anything that's actually constructive. Just a recommendation.

 

You're not disagreeing with me, I agree with you
While it's certainly not rude to ask about the price, it does become rude when we ridicule them for not wanting to tell us.

 

It's the same basic principle in matters of law. There are several topics that are off limits in a court room. But if the witness themselves bring it up then the door is opened and they open themselves up for cros***amination on the subject. You can't really expect to have it both ways....... unless you are a jerk. Then you can expect to be called out as a jerk. That's my opinion and it's one that happens to be shared by way more than just me.

 

And what if someone isn't a jerk about it? What if someone says "I don't feel like discussing what I paid", even after they asked a few people what something it worth?

Then do you support ridiculing them for not coughing up the goods?

 

True, it's not intrinsically *rude* to ask.... but if you have ever noticed you usually preceed the question of what someone paid with "If you don't mind me asking..." or something along those lines.

Why do you think that is?

 

LOL, Absolutely. They asked for it.

Say I post about trying to date this REALLY hot bartender and I post a picture of her ***y self for everyone to see how hot she really is. I've tried a couple of plays for her and struck out so I post asking for advice on what to try next. I get a couple of dozen posts about what everyone else would try and I follow up saying by God I'm going down there tonight and trying the advice I got from all you fine folks and we'll see how it goes.

Are you saying that I'm not a total ****ing ***hole if I leave everyone hanging and not tell them if I got lucky Saturday night? Sure, I have a right to not tell, but that doesn't make me any less of a douche bag for leaving everyone in the dark about their advice and how it played out.

 

For me? It's my desire to balance what I give out (being pleasant) with what my inner hoodlum WANTS to say... I try to be pleasant unless driven to not be, and even then I will try to resort to a joke before being an outright ***

I hope that I could meet any person on here that I've written to and face them for what I may ever have written. If we were to treat each one of these replies as a personal transaction, then people would (for the most part) be more polite than they are right now.

 

Actually, that's exactly what I'm saying.

I've got enough to deal with with our government trying to keep track of what I do and what I spend, I don't need people like you doing it too.

It speaks more for what kind of people there are out there though when you can say with a straight face that being an ***hole to someone is justified based simply on the idea that they didn't make the choice you want them to make in giving up information that (even according to our poll above. lol) is PRIVATE...

Awesome. :thumbup:

 

Well then people like you don't post WIW posts do ya' Cuz you keep ALL of it to yourself. End of problem. I don't have a problem with people that keep ALL of their business to themselves. Just the ones that make their buisness public till the last moment and THEN privacy is a big isssue. It's like telling a long joke and then refusing to say the punchline.