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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by MCCrawlers, Jun 9, 2009.

  1. Yea outside where you can contaminate the whole damned neighborhood.

    If its that important that you are afraid it will harm your family, why would you subject your neighbors to it? Just curious I guess.

    Put an exhaust fan on the garage and some sort of a filter that you can change out if you are worried about it. That way you don't harm your family or anyone elses.

    And yes all automotive paint had lead in in it in the '50s.
     
  2. zman
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    from Garner, NC

    But what about the kids there? :confused:
     
  3. Large_911
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    I work w/ lead powders everyday. Any process you can do "wet" will be best to keep the dust down. As mentioned, a respirator and a HEPA vacuum are a must when working w/ lead dust.

    That being said, just because it is old lacquer paint, it does not necessarily mean it contains lead. I do know that a certain type of lead oxide was used in paints to provide a bright white pigment. I have an e-mail into my dad who is a retired coating chemist...I'll see what he thinks.
     
  4. EnglishBob
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    You can buy a product called 'Ledizolv' which will as its name suggests dissolve the lead dust into a safe product.
    Dust mask will suffice but always better to use P100 hepa filters,works with asbestos then aswell.
    Don't use a shop vac,sweeping is safest if you can't get hold of a Hepa vac
     
  5. MCCrawlers
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    from Utah

    Joking.
     
  6. MCCrawlers
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    Thanks for the good info whitewalltires.
     
  7. Silent_Orchestra
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    Yep it's got lead...But you probably all ready know that from the 20 or so other replies.

    BTW I like your screen name...I'm guessing your into JD MCs.
     
  8. MCCrawlers
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    porknbeaner. How have you handled the sanding of cars in the past? Just curious.
     
  9. jonnycola
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    You know, a rap. Like MC Hammer style or something.
     
  10. theHIGHLANDER
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    I'm all for care and caution and did see a couple good reasonable responses, but some of you sound like Prius drivers. Asbestos? Just leave it alone. Some act like the shit's radioactive. It's the dust that's dangerous not the substance in it's static condition. Same with the paint gig. The best response was to have it media-blated. Safe, clean, won't hurt the chrome and stuff if you have a good guy for it, and cheap in the grand scheme of the project.

    There's always chemical strippers too. Again if it's done right it's easy and leaves very little to sand. Otherwise just wear a dust mask and go for it in a secure location.

    Last asbestos comment, the Henry Ford Museum was going to remove all the asbestos covering off the big coal train. I flat out told the director what a stupid idea that was to subject the rest of the museum to the airborne dust and debris that would be the result of knocking it all off of there. It's a satic display that has the whole asbestos covering sealed in an asphalt based thick coating of paint. A little logic and common sense can go a long way to keeping it safe and sane.

    Anyone that over-worries about old mat'ls and such should never have old cars.
     
  11. MCCrawlers
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    I don't know what a JD MCs is. I build tube chassis rock crawlers in my spare time. It is in reference to that. I use the screen name on the other forums I am on, so I usually keep it the same when I join a new forum.
     
  12. EnglishBob
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    If the asbestos is removed properly then the museum wouldnt have been subjected to airborne asbestos.
    FYI there are asbestos warts, diseases caused by asbestos entering the body through cuts etc.
    The dust is by far the worst but handling it in a solid state isnt safe.
    10's of thousands of asbestos related deaths can't mean its that safe.
     
  13. MCCrawlers
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    Come on!!! I am sure I am probably half crazy already from the materials I have ingested in the past. I just wanted to be cautious if needed, to avoid exposing my children. It's as simple as that.
     
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  14. Large_911
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    It is plain stupid to not be aware of the materials you are handling and take appropriate measures.
     
  15. theHIGHLANDER
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    And you're right, not OVER-WORRIED about it. Maybe a re-read to get what I was sayin?
     
  16. MCCrawlers
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    Re-read, and understood. Thanks.
     
  17. ykp53
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    seriously im sure we ave all injested something toxic at some point. How much lead dust do you think your kids will inhale? Do you know how much it takes to hurt you? I swear some parents take this way to far. Next thing you know you will have to wear a helmet and pads and ride in a booster seat untill your 18.

    good lord, relax.....
     
  18. I inhaled paint dust and worked leading in cars years ago . I had my blood checked they found no traces of lead.
     
  19. A Little Odd
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    I've been around old cars all of my life. I work on mine at home around 3 kids. I know there are risks involved in anything but I have to be practical - I've messed around with a lot of 20's - 30's parts over the last year and I have a stash of parts that I have brought into my garage at home. Last night I was cleaning some up and rearranging things and I thought about this subject again after sweeping up after it all. I probably should have researched this more before but whatever. I think I should have my old cars :)
     
  20. rustyford40
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    Twinkies will make you crazy wow glad I read this thread.
     
  21. Billet
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    It might be safer if I just pickup the car:p
     
  22. pimpin paint
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    Hey,

    Jus' a heads up on lead exposure and children- Kids, toddlers bodies are much smaller (including vital organs) than adults. As a result, when lead is ingested into their systems its' impact is much greater. The human body stores lead in bone marrow and vital organs, not good! Lead dust tracked into your home via you boots, clothes, hair etc. CAN be transfered to their living quarters-NOT GOOD! Don't allow children into the shop in bare feet, or whyle drinking or eating.

    Yes, automotive finishes of the 50's contained lead, that's why they've lasted fifty years-plus! There is nothing in any automotive paint product that's organic to the human body, as a result, all chemicals, elements etc. are treated by the body as an attack on its' systems.

    I don't even like little kids, but I sure wouldn't dry sand or grind any automotive paint finish in my garage, driveway,carport or anywhere they may come in contact with residue from sanding, grinding or scrapping!

    Swankey Devils C.C.
    "Spending A Nation Into Generational Debt Is Not An Act Of Compassion!"
     
  23. cb1
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    I have sanded lead paint and there is nothing wrong with me because I have sanded lead paint and there is nothing wrong with me because I have sanded lead paint and there is nothing wrong with me because I have sanded lead paint and there is nothing wrong with me because I have sanded lead paint and there is nothing wrong with me because I have sanded lead paint and there is nothing wrong with me because I have sanded lead paint and there is nothing wrong with me because I have sanded lead paint and there is nothing wrong with me because I have sanded lead paint and there is nothing wrong with me because I have sanded lead paint and there is nothing wrong with me because I have sanded lead paint and there is nothing wrong with me because I have sanded lead paint and there is nothing wrong with me because I have sanded lead paint and there is nothing wrong with me because I have sanded lead paint and there is nothing wrong with me because I have sanded lead paint and there is nothing wrong with me because I have sanded lead paint and there is nothing wrong with me because were am I
     
  24. BigChief
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    House paint, yes....no lead in 35 years. Automotive paints/primers and industrial coatings had and still have lead in some formulations depending on color and application.
     
  25. autobodyed
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    a lot of good advice here, but you can resolve all you're worries by bringing it to a professional sandblaster / stripper. my .02
     
  26. MCCrawlers
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    I have a call in to a soda blaster here in Utah to see what the cost will be to have them strip it. Thanks for all the info, suggestions and entertainment.
     
  27. Mark H
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    I'm about to start the body work on my project and am also worried about the implications to my health regarding contamination from old paint dust.That's why I'm going to get my kids to do the prep!
     
  28. 52style
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    test it first before you go to bed eat a few paint chips from the car if you wake up tommorow twitching well then you got lead paint
     
  29. rodknocker
    Joined: Jan 31, 2006
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    my, my, my lead paint makes me, feel true
    turns all my bugers, so blue
    thank you, for warning me
    so my urine isn't blue, when I pee
    my family's happy, I kept clean
    my wife can so, freakin mean
    come in the house, so dusty
    cause my car is, so rusty
    some day, it'll be all done
    and all that lead paint, will be all gone
    break it down
     
  30. texasred
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    Wrap your kids in dryer sheets they should be ok
     

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