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Tires hitting bones with dropped axle on model A

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by vail72, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. vail72
    Joined: May 12, 2008
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    vail72
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    from Stroud, OK

    I am building a 30 model A. It has split bones, and I just installed a 4 inch dropped axle. Now the tires are hitting the bones before the steering stop. I understand the dropped axle brought the tires closer, but what is the solution
    Thanks.

    The tires are 16 inch Firestone road champions
     
  2. brokenspoke
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  3. 2-TONED
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    longer stops.
     
  4. Elrod
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    ...or unsplit bones.

    .....or move the bones inward.
     
  5. G V Gordon
    Joined: Oct 29, 2002
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    from Enid OK

    Not uncommon. My T has the same problem as well as the drag link on the cowl steering. I just got used to turning wider. They hardly ever rub now as I have learned how far I can turn.

    I guess you could say my bones ARE my stop.lol
     
  6. Very common, usually the only time you get that far it is beyond normal steering anyway. Not an issue unless your frame is 5 feet wide at the cowl? ;)
     
  7. An old roundy rounder like you might find that point on a full lock drift!;)
     
  8. Sando
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    Try moving the wishbone mount to the inside of the frame
     
  9. crackerass54
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    sell it and buy a minicooper
     
  10. manyolcars
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    I added a washer under the stop nut
     
  11. cruzr
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    same here, easy fix
     
  12. VonKool13
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    Steering stops usually work. They are cheap and you can find them everywhere. If that doesn't fix it add washers. Good Luck.
     
  13. HomemadeHardtop57
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    yeah..mine rub a little too when I turn it hard
     
  14. vail72
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    Very good thanks, I had thought about moving the mounts, but increasing the stop is much easier. It is not drivable, I just changed the axle when I noticed it, so I don't know how much turning radius I still have. I am building the tie rod now, so I will know about the stops. Thanks for answering, I am sure there will be more questions to come.
     
  15. F&J
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    Some old builds had the tie rod end (on the end of the bone) coming in from the inside. Then the bones are further away from the tire. In other words, the tie rod end nut is what is visible from the side of the frame, not the body of the tie rod end.

    Also, different axles like the 32-36 had the perch holes father away from the spindle; which also gains a little.
     
  16. fleetside66
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    Wheel spacers will also help.
     
  17. G V Gordon
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    Well sure, everyone knows you steer with both hands AND your right foot.
     
  18. dmw56
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    Different offset wheels
     
  19. hotrod40coupe
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    Moving the bones closer to the center of the frame will not only cure your steering problem but it will also improve your ride. Henry designed the bones to rotate on the ball that mounts under the transmission. When you split them you change the geometry from a triangle to a rectangle which causes a stiffer suspension.
     
  20. cretin
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    Are you using a model A axle or a later axle?
     
  21. Dirty Dug
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    I'll bet you have a late model axle?
     
  22. vail72
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  23. DE SOTO
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    How can anyone make an edjumacated guess or offer of advice without a pic of whats going on ?

    Lets See A Pic of the front suspension !!
     
  24. Sando
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    I can make an edjumacated guess because I am edjumacated.
     
  25. DE SOTO
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    Thats what they all say on the HAMB :D
     
  26. srosa707
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    from Sacramento

    Just drive it, youll never have to turn that hard anyways. (most likely) Mine hit too.
     
  27. Hot Turkey
    Joined: Feb 21, 2007
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    Hot Turkey
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    Easy! Use longer stops!
     

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