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Banjo Help on My 28 A sedan

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by LesIsMore, Jul 2, 2009.

  1. LesIsMore
    Joined: Apr 8, 2008
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    from Ohio

    So I have late 30s ford suspension planned for my 28 tudor, began mockup after mounting my 35 wires with big firestone 7.50x16s and they are super close to the lip of the inner fender well, plan was to channel the body 3"-4" can't do it as is, if it comes down any further, tires will rub. Apparently the rear is fairly narrow, never even thought twice as i have seen a ton of banjos under the A's

    I wanted to run an old banjo for the look and because it is a complete super nice front and rearend, hydraulic brakes, and all new components...suppose I could go a late model ford 8"-9" rear that is wider, or use the banjo and add some spacers, or modify the inner fenderwells by recessing them a couple of inches...

    What would you fellas do?

    Here is a pic of my project below, just all MOCKED UP, the shock in the pic is just hanging, not attached for those who will say something about the angle.

    Havent presented the project yet because I am just getting rolling, will post soon. Plan is to keep it simple and sweet, mild chop, mild channel, with some traditional roots and details.


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  2. Channelled Tudors are the Prostreet of this decade. That is a good looking sedan, leave it on top of the frame like Henry designed.
     
  3. thunderbirdesq
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    Not sure that I totally agree with that statement, but I DO prefer it up on top of the rails.:D

    Anyhow, if you're dead set on channeling it a running a banjo, looks like you have two choices. Move the wheelwells up a few inches, or get a later 42-48 banjo that's a few inches wider.;)

    Also, with your rear shock angle, I fear they'll not be doing much of anything. Maybe they're just hanging there because it's just mocked up, but I'd change them to a more vertical position if that's not the case.

    BTW, I have a nice 47 banjo rear just sitting in my garage, I may be interested in swapping for an earlier model. PM me if yer interested.
     
  4. LesIsMore
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    Don't get me wrong, just wanted to take it down to hide some of the frame rail, she ain't sitting on pretty 32 rails...appreciate the advice. That isnt out of the question. Would you still be concerned about how close to the fenderwell lip?
     
  5. EV34
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    i dig it the way it sits
     
  6. You will maybe get some rub from bodyroll. A swaybar will help that but look at many driven cars and there is a touch of rubber in the inner fenderwell.
     
  7. rainman1958
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    How far would you have to go to use spacers? Ifyou don't need much it might be the way to go.
     
  8. LesIsMore
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    How much wider is the 42-48 banjo than the 36-39 widths? Suppose the long and short is, a 3" channel, may not even be worth the effort, I was just considering aesthetics, just streamlining really, but I suppose leaving it on top is probably fine, the chop is however necessary, if it is going to be a hiboy, then the roofline has to come down 3"-4"...

    What do you guys think? Channel it or forget it and focus on the rest.
     
  9. EnglishBob
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    Wheel spacers--the lower it goes the closer the wheel gets to the body
     
  10. Think of running a rolled bellypan to cover the frame ala the Niekamp Roadster,
     
  11. hotrod-40
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    I believe a 42-47 car rear end is 1 & 3/4 wider. that the route I went on my 40 pickup. Stick with a Banjo.
     
  12. LesIsMore
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    Banjo was my original plan, if i keep it on top, looks like i can use this one if not too much body roll. Anyone have some info on bodyroll, i am just estimating, i know much has to do with the springs and shocks, but those will be in decent shape.
     
  13. You can get about an inch of additional clearance on each side by running reversed rims.

    If that does not work go to 46-48 banjo bells.
     
  14. How much roll? Until the tire touches the inner fender;) Really not an issue until you are playing Rickyracer and want to chase Vettes.
     
  15. LesIsMore
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    No speed racer here, just want to take these things into consideration and do it right the first time. I appreciate everyones advice, looks like it is staying up on top.
     
  16. motoandy
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    I agree. I am leaving mine unchopped and as a high boy. Good luck, in what ever you decide.
     
  17. My 28 tudor sits on the rails and has a 4" chop. It also has recessed arches. Moving the arches inwards is not a major job, and garantees your tires wont rub. I personally think that channeling as well as the chop makes them too confined and uncomfortable (hey, I'm an old fart).
    My opinion would be to leave the body on top, do the chop, and fit a later banjo which a previous poster has kindly offered to swap. The Silva Tudor has pipes running along the frame which is very cool, or as someone before said, you can use modified valance panels which also looks cool.
    I dig your tudor, it will be a nice rod.
     
  18. LesIsMore
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    Does anyone know if they make a spacer for 5x5.5 that will work with 5x5.5 ford wire wheels, seems like most are adapters from one lug pattern to another, I want to use same lug pattern and just get my wheels out a couple of inches if I go this route.
     
  19. Ice man
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    I needed to mount my Kelsey's wires on Chevy hubs and got a set of spacers from a vendor in California. Think there name was American Wheel. Moved my wheels out about 1 1/2. Very well built. Ice man
     
  20. Big Tony
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    Nice start...gonna look killer, keep us posted
     

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